More FIA Dice Rolling-FRIC Suspension to be Banned

More FIA Dice Rolling-FRIC Suspension to be Banned

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andyps

7,817 posts

282 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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MikeyC said:
without reading the gumpf, sounds 2 me like FRIC is a front-to-rear anti-roll bar system

if CW wants to reduce costs (yeah right!), would be far better to supply teams with a standard front wing ....
It doesn't need to be a standard front wing. Just a single plane one with a single flat endplate (with suitable radius to stop it cutting tyres). As a wing costs £250k at least I am sure they could save at least half a mill per race with simpler wings, and it might spice up the show in terms of lower downforce too so a win-win. But far too simple for the FIA to consider.

zac510

5,546 posts

206 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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andyps said:
It doesn't need to be a standard front wing. Just a single plane one with a single flat endplate (with suitable radius to stop it cutting tyres). As a wing costs £250k at least I am sure they could save at least half a mill per race with simpler wings, and it might spice up the show in terms of lower downforce too so a win-win. But far too simple for the FIA to consider.
Actually it's the F1 Strategy Group (formed of teams) to make such decisions, not the FIA. (but eventually I guess the FIA have to translate it into the regulations).

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2013/10/controversia...


Flying Toilet

3,621 posts

211 months

Thursday 17th July 2014
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Mercedes running without it this weekend.

rpgk

448 posts

224 months

Thursday 17th July 2014
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Sorry for re-posting, but would Mercedes not running it suit Hamilton or Rosberg more? My thought is given Hamilton seems to like throwing the car around a bit more it would favor him over Rosberg?

Walford

2,259 posts

166 months

Thursday 17th July 2014
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Standard ECU to control dampers is the way they will go

JonRB

74,560 posts

272 months

Thursday 17th July 2014
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Walford said:
Standard ECU to control dampers is the way they will go
Sorry? The cars currently have passive dampers. Active suspension is something that is still being discussed for the future.

Walford

2,259 posts

166 months

Thursday 17th July 2014
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JonRB said:
Walford said:
Standard ECU to control dampers is the way they will go
Sorry? The cars currently have passive dampers. Active suspension is something that is still being discussed for the future.
"will",Expressing the future tense:

JonRB

74,560 posts

272 months

Thursday 17th July 2014
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Walford said:
"will",Expressing the future tense:
Apologies. Since we were talking about the immediate near-future with respect to FRIC, you can hopefully see that your statement was rather ambiguous.

I "will" (expressing the future tense) click the "Submit" button now.

Walford

2,259 posts

166 months

Thursday 17th July 2014
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JonRB said:
Walford said:
"will",Expressing the future tense:
Apologies. Since we were talking about the immediate near-future with respect to FRIC, you can hopefully see that your statement was rather ambiguous.

I "will" (expressing the future tense) click the "Submit" button now.
when

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 17th July 2014
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rpgk said:
Sorry for re-posting, but would Mercedes not running it suit Hamilton or Rosberg more? My thought is given Hamilton seems to like throwing the car around a bit more it would favor him over Rosberg?
The car will now dive further downwards at the front under heavy breaking, thus transferring more weight to the front of the car (I think). Hamilton likes more rear brake bias, whereas Rosberg likes more on the front. So it's possibly a bit better for Rosberg.

Anyway this is all complete bks. I can't stand all this whinging from the teams that are chasing.

rpgk

448 posts

224 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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RenOHH said:
The car will now dive further downwards at the front under heavy breaking, thus transferring more weight to the front of the car (I think). Hamilton likes more rear brake bias, whereas Rosberg likes more on the front. So it's possibly a bit better for Rosberg.

Anyway this is all complete bks. I can't stand all this whinging from the teams that are chasing.
Understood - bugger!

BritishRacinGrin

24,701 posts

160 months

RemarkLima

2,375 posts

212 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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BritishRacinGrin said:
And Mercedes are still one two for fp1 and fp2... So, just a pointless exercise by the FIA to try and level the field.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

274 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Was that never in doubt?

RemarkLima

2,375 posts

212 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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It seemed to be the point otherwise it'd have just been left to the end of the season surely? *shrug*

zac510

5,546 posts

206 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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It wasn't to level the field, it was to save costs smile

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

262 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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BritishRacinGrin said:
"Red Bull's Daniel Ricciardo was more open, saying he hoped the change would hurt Mercedes more.

"We'll see. The thought of it is nice - that maybe Mercedes had a really trick system and will lose out more than us," he said. "But we'll see what really happens on track.

"In saying all that, I don't think it's going to be a change that will cost a second in lap time. I think it will be a tenth or two tenths. Maybe it will make them faster..."

RYH64E

7,960 posts

244 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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zac510 said:
It wasn't to level the field, it was to save costs smile
So the teams have had to remove a system that they'd already paid to develop and will now have their engineers looking at ways to achieve the same effect by alternative means. Where's the saving?

Edited by RYH64E on Saturday 19th July 13:42

zac510

5,546 posts

206 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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Don't ask me, ask the FIA!

Jawaman

271 posts

133 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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If I had my way, there would only be the most basic of FIA rules, most of which would be safety related.

F1 for me is supposed to be the pinnacle of technical innovation, which currently it really isn't.

I'd love to see teams having a bash at six wheeled cars, different engine configurations, trick electronics etc - would certainly make things a lot more interesting.