The Official German GP Thread 2014 *******Spoilers*****

The Official German GP Thread 2014 *******Spoilers*****

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Vaud

50,607 posts

156 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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Mikey G said:
Take the emotions away from your favourite drivers and that is still a safety car IMO, at no point should marshals have been made to run across the track at that point so close to the last corner.
No marshals were made to run. There were plenty on the inside of the circuit. I have no idea why they ran across, they were either badly instructed by race control or locally. Even if there was a big gap to the next car, it was an un-needed risk in my view.

Jasandjules

69,934 posts

230 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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Leithen said:
It looked like a certain safety car at first (especially considering past itchy trigger syndrome on the SC button), but it was off the racing line, in a spot where cars don't normally venture. .
It would only take one brake failure or engine failure locking up the rears etc for another car to spin randomly and into that car and the marshalls. Perhaps a bit too nanny state-ish but it sure looked risky to me.

VolvoT5

4,155 posts

175 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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I think Massa was mostly to blame for that incident...
Kimi Raikkonen - painful watching a sportsman be so comprehensively destroyed by the competition.

Rosberg - great drive in a totally dominant car.
Hamilton - Got away with pushing his luck today.

Bottas might be driver of the day? Yet again delivering a solid result for Williams and fending off Lewis at the end.

MGJohn

10,203 posts

184 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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Yes, all too often SCs have been deployed in the past for less apparent safety concerns.

Consistency is hard to achieve as no two incidents and the decision makers viewpoints are ever exactly the same. In the past the SCs have often been over-deployed for this observer.

Had it been deployed this time with resultant bunching up, there could have been some different results up front with several positional changes having an SC assist rather than driver/car combination merit.

Plus, you can have a good bet on SC deployment or not, or how many times it's deployed ... wink

I had a wide range of 'interest' bets on the race. Did not back the winner. Far too skinny odds and the Mercs have shown some fragility of late. Main bets being JB and SV to finish in front of their team mates. Largest bet was for JB to finish in the points from 11th on the grid. Almost a no brainer. Safe hands ... ask Hamilton. Reasonable odds available for all those risky bets.

I also had a few minor bets on Massa so possibly you can blame me for what happened there. My money weighs heavily on some drivers. Not all though. There again, maybe Massa's ongoing continual bad luck was responsible. I expected his Williams to go well but not upside down.

Edited by MGJohn on Sunday 20th July 16:06

MGJohn

10,203 posts

184 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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Catatafish said:
JonRB said:
Maybe this will mean that the SC won't be deployed at the drop of a hat in future races too. We can but hope.
They were slagged off last race so today they over compensated. Some consistency would be a miracle.
100% consistency would be impossible.

Deployed far too often for this observer. If it is to be 100% safe, best to ban all Motor Racing.

Catatafish

1,361 posts

146 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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deadslow said:
They didn't overcompensate. It was fine. Stop having an opinion.
Thanks. How lucky we all are that you can tell us when it's fine!

What would we do without you?


deadslow

8,009 posts

224 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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Catatafish said:
deadslow said:
They didn't overcompensate. It was fine. Stop having an opinion.
Thanks. How lucky we all are that you can tell us when it's fine!

What would we do without you?
It was fine. That is my opinion. And Charlie Whiting's. hehehehehehehehe

JonRB

74,615 posts

273 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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Classic film "Grand Prix" started on BBC 2 about 20 mins ago, starring the recently deceased James Garner.

JonRB

74,615 posts

273 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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JonRB said:
Classic film "Grand Prix" started on BBC 2 about 20 mins ago, starring the recently deceased James Garner.
It's certainly putting into perspective the marshals running across the track under waved yellows today. I can't believe how dangerous it all looks!

Hungrymc

6,674 posts

138 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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deadslow said:
It was fine. That is my opinion. And Charlie Whiting's. hehehehehehehehe
I bet Charlie had to consider it long and hard though, very borderline call.

Should have been an SC. It wouldn't have denied Nico his win (well deserved). Good drive by Lewis after another reliability prob and his unfortunate misreading of Button. On balance, an excellent race.

stephen300o

15,464 posts

229 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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"Unfortunate misreading.." Hoho.

Amazing how he got away with plowing into that group of cars, who says he is unlucky?!

Derek Smith

45,704 posts

249 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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That was an enjoyable race. Fun from start to finish.

AlexS

1,552 posts

233 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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stephen300o said:
"Unfortunate misreading.." Hoho.

Amazing how he got away with plowing into that group of cars, who says he is unlucky?!
Same way that he and Kimi went side by side round the previous corners, and how Kimi, Fernando and Seb went 3 abreast and also managed to come out all facing forwards.

Qussz

113 posts

121 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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Does anyone know why Martin Brundle didn't do the grid walk on SKY, and also why they didn't show the drivers in the room chatting before they go up on the podium?

airbusA346

785 posts

154 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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Qussz said:
Does anyone know why Martin Brundle didn't do the grid walk on SKY, and also why they didn't show the drivers in the room chatting before they go up on the podium?
The Podium room camera is under FOM control, not Sky I think.

FourWheelDrift

88,556 posts

285 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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I'm guessing either they'd give Laurel & Hardy a go for sts and giggles, or the commentary box they were in is a long way from the grid and in this hot weather it's not good to be running and rushing all the way back up to it for a cool race start commentary without being all sweaty and out of breath.

JonRB

74,615 posts

273 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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FourWheelDrift said:
the commentary box they were in is a long way from the grid and in this hot weather it's not good to be running and rushing all the way back up to it for a cool race start commentary without being all sweaty and out of breath.
More likely this. Also I suspect that Brundle is finding the grid walks as tedious as we are. smile

750turbo

6,164 posts

225 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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Ehhhh...

"Nico Rosberg comes from behind wins German F1 on home turf from 20th position on the grid"

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/motor-sports/ni...



"NINE days after getting married, the German takes a win at home despite the five-place grid penalty after a crash during qualifying led to a necessary gearbox change."


Qussz

113 posts

121 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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The only bits I enjoy these days are the gridwalks, Ted's quali and race notebooks, the actual race and the podium room just after the race. frown

dtrump

2,120 posts

192 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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lol