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Vaud

50,284 posts

154 months

Monday 28th July 2014
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Chrisgr31 said:
Well the same moral code that the man in the street would adopt. You'd struggle to find people who would say F1 should not go to Singapore or Japan, but you'd struggle to find someone who thinks they should go to Russia!
Which shows how the man in the street isn't very well informed, when you look at Singapore and Japan more closely (esp the former).

Maybe they have better PR?

Crafty_

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13,248 posts

199 months

Monday 28th July 2014
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We should remember that the aircraft was shot down in what is basically a warzone. Russia ia a big place.

Vaud

50,284 posts

154 months

Monday 28th July 2014
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Chrisgr31 said:
Well the same moral code that the man in the street would adopt. You'd struggle to find people who would say F1 should not go to Singapore or Japan, but you'd struggle to find someone who thinks they should go to Russia!
And that is if you don't mind me saying so, a very Western centric view. You mean a "British man on the street" - what about a a Russian in Russia, or a Chinese man in China?

It's a global sport, global views.

If Putin gets indicted for a War Crime, fine, don't go, but he isn't and nothing is proven yet. Ukraine is squabble right now and I see faults on both sides.

johnfm

13,668 posts

249 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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Vaud said:
Chrisgr31 said:
Well the same moral code that the man in the street would adopt. You'd struggle to find people who would say F1 should not go to Singapore or Japan, but you'd struggle to find someone who thinks they should go to Russia!
And that is if you don't mind me saying so, a very Western centric view. You mean a "British man on the street" - what about a a Russian in Russia, or a Chinese man in China?

It's a global sport, global views.

If Putin gets indicted for a War Crime, fine, don't go, but he isn't and nothing is proven yet. Ukraine is squabble right now and I see faults on both sides.
Well, since F1 started in Europe and all of the team are based here, I think a European 'man on the Clapham omnibus' would suffice.

I expect it is only Russians who think Russia's annexing of Crimea wasn't out of order and the ensuing political, financial and military support of the 'separatists' is, to the vast majority of observers, out of order.

The holding of races in Russia, China or other new-money venues has no relation at all to introducing the sport to new audiences. It is an attempt to attract new sponsorship money from those places.

As before, it boils down to ethics of making money for F1's owners and teams. Not surprisingly, those making hundreds of millions won't make ethical judgments that risk that money.

johnfm

13,668 posts

249 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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Crafty_ said:
We should remember that the aircraft was shot down in what is basically a warzone. Russia ia a big place.
Head in the Sand sale =======================>

You're kidding yourself if you think that passenger jet would not have been shot down but for Russia supplying anti aircraft weapons to 'separatists'.

Crafty_

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13,248 posts

199 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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johnfm said:
Head in the Sand sale =======================>

You're kidding yourself if you think that passenger jet would not have been shot down but for Russia supplying anti aircraft weapons to 'separatists'.
Excuse me? when did I say anything of the sort ?

I didn't make any comment on who shot it down and where those weapons came from or if it would/wouldn't have happened if X or whatever. All I did was point out that the aircraft was in whats basically a warzone.

Do note that MH17 was a daily flight up until the tragedy, none of those flights were shot down, but then they didn't veer off course...

benters

1,459 posts

133 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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there has been a German GP for a good many years and they have had their share of human rights issues !