Are mercedes going to lose the drivers title if the

Are mercedes going to lose the drivers title if the

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LandR

6,249 posts

254 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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Just saw this online

Points over the last 6 races

Ricciardo: 102
Rosberg: 98
Bottas: 76
Hamilton: 73
Alonso: 60

Park'O

656 posts

174 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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mistakenplane said:
Considering all the Merc drivers are doing is generally deciding who gets 25 and who gets 18, I cant see anyone else catching, much less Ricciardo pulling back 70 points somehow.

However the last race double points madness...who knows...but even then he needs to be inside 50 points.
No he needs to be inside 14 points. 2nd place gets 36 points, 3rd place 30 points and so on...

whatleytom

1,297 posts

183 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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Park'O said:
mistakenplane said:
Considering all the Merc drivers are doing is generally deciding who gets 25 and who gets 18, I cant see anyone else catching, much less Ricciardo pulling back 70 points somehow.

However the last race double points madness...who knows...but even then he needs to be inside 50 points.
No he needs to be inside 14 points. 2nd place gets 36 points, 3rd place 30 points and so on...
I think what mistakenplane means is technically its possible if he is within 50 points, should the mercs both blow up or something.

MG CHRIS

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9,083 posts

167 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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LandR said:
Just saw this online

Points over the last 6 races

Ricciardo: 102
Rosberg: 98
Bottas: 76
Hamilton: 73
Alonso: 60
Nice stats very surprised that bottas has scored more points than Hamilton.

All that Riccardo needs is for Hamilton to take out rosberg and Riccardo grin will be even bigger. Red bull now needs to keep the focus on Riccardo and for vettel to help him do it which im sure he would.

DJRC

23,563 posts

236 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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No. Next...

Vaud

50,498 posts

155 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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DJRC said:
No. Next...
It was discussed on the BBC podcast. Hamilton is down on engines. Few circuits coming up where RB might go well. After all, who would have them winning at Spa?

I think it might be close. Certainly closer for WDC than many expected. Not WCC obviously.

Vaud

50,498 posts

155 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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ash73 said:
It would be an incredible story if Ricciardo nicked it. If he gets much closer Merc might have to focus on their lead driver, and the internet would then go into complete meltdown.
Normally I would throw scorn at such a lead, but that 50 points at the end does provide many more scenarios.

A fascinating few races ahead.

davepoth

29,395 posts

199 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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Monza will be interesting. Now Red Bull have found out that their car goes quite quick with no wing and still goes round the corners properly, they are a bit of a threat; Williams will be right up there of course, and presumably McLaren can at least go fast in a straight line.

I don't think Mercedes will piss this up the wall, but they need to make a firm decision on who they're backing for WDC, and do it quickly. Otherwise their drivers are going to carry on being petulant little twits until Ricciardo wins by a nose. And what a nose. wink

MG CHRIS

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9,083 posts

167 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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davepoth said:
Monza will be interesting. Now Red Bull have found out that their car goes quite quick with no wing and still goes round the corners properly, they are a bit of a threat; Williams will be right up there of course, and presumably McLaren can at least go fast in a straight line.

I don't think Mercedes will piss this up the wall, but they need to make a firm decision on who they're backing for WDC, and do it quickly. Otherwise their drivers are going to carry on being petulant little twits until Ricciardo wins by a nose. And what a nose. wink
I was also thinking this too. Who though will they choice rosberg because he is 30 points ahead or hamiton because he is a better racer relatively speaking.

They have to choice quickly though leave it any longer and they will lose the drivers title.

patmahe

5,751 posts

204 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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If they were to pick a driver, I'd say Rosberg is the most logical choice. Further ahead in a car that can do top 3 on a bad day or win on a good day, even more so if you have a rear gunner of Hamiltons abilities.

That said I can't see either of them taking the number 2 slot willingly.

DManning123

17 posts

127 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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P-Jay said:
No,

Even with a month or so before the next race, they're meant to take a mandated 2 week break so there shouldn't be any huge updates for the next race and unfortunately for RB the one thing they can't really update is the thing that's holding them back.

It's not impossible of course, but DR needs Nico AND Lewis to have an howler of a second half of the season.
All it takes is for them to take each other out in one race and he'd be well within the 50 points on offer at Abu Dhabi. Nash's Equilibrium at work ...

clonmult

10,529 posts

209 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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ash73 said:
It would be an incredible story if Ricciardo nicked it. If he gets much closer Merc might have to focus on their lead driver, and the internet would then go into complete meltdown.
Problem there is that Merc seem to have two very distinct lead drivers. Going into the season you would have put Hamilton as #1, but now in the WDC he's a distant #2.

For the viewers they should just let them squabble, Ricciardo would be a very popular WDC.

andyps

7,817 posts

282 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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patmahe said:
If they were to pick a driver, I'd say Rosberg is the most logical choice. Further ahead in a car that can do top 3 on a bad day or win on a good day, even more so if you have a rear gunner of Hamiltons abilities.

That said I can't see either of them taking the number 2 slot willingly.
Further ahead in a more reliable car? I guess Sunday showed that Rosberg wouldn't make a rear gunner, is that the point he was trying to make?


clonmult said:
Problem there is that Merc seem to have two very distinct lead drivers. Going into the season you would have put Hamilton as #1, but now in the WDC he's a distant #2.

For the viewers they should just let them squabble, Ricciardo would be a very popular WDC.
As above, Hamilton is a distant #2 almost entirely down to car issues, I'm not sure Rosberg would have recovered to a podium place from a pit lane start.

Jasandjules

69,892 posts

229 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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andyps said:
As above, Hamilton is a distant #2 almost entirely down to car issues, I'm not sure Rosberg would have recovered to a podium place from a pit lane start.
I think looking at how long he can spend stuck behind drivers compared to Lewis who just gets them overtaken, the answer is clear enough.

andyps

7,817 posts

282 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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ash73 said:
Racing is not just about overtaking, unless you are 12.
For a driver it has to be unless they start at the front wink

Vaud

50,498 posts

155 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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andyps said:
For a driver it has to be unless they start at the front wink
I disagree. You could win a WDC never winning a race, just get P2 every race wink

Jasandjules

69,892 posts

229 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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ash73 said:
Racing is not just about overtaking, unless you are 12.
The issue was relating to could Nico start from the pit lane or back of the grid and get on the podium. I would suggest not, even in a far more powerful car. Even some of Lewis' overtakes were on a knife edge.

That said, to me being able to race means being able to overtake as well, because you won't always have blue flags waving for you..


Mermaid

21,492 posts

171 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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Well Toto Wolf has made it clear to the two drivers - toe the company & team line, or else you may need to look for another drive.

rubystone

11,254 posts

259 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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Mermaid said:
Well Toto Wolf has made it clear to the two drivers - toe the company & team line, or else you may need to look for another drive.
That must really worry the st out of its two multi millionaire drivers, question is...would he put his chips on Lewis or Nico?

andyps

7,817 posts

282 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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rubystone said:
That must really worry the st out of its two multi millionaire drivers
I suspect (and hope) the driver part is more important to them than the multi millionaire element and being that is what will worry them, particularly with the limited number of top drives available.

rubystone said:
... question is...would he put his chips on Lewis or Nico?
That is the interesting question. One of them has had a reprimand already though so maybe a factor. Having said that, I could see Lewis back at McLaren for 2016 if the Honda engine works well next year.