Max Verstappen to Race for Toro Rosso

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thegreenhell said:

I stand by my previous comments, perhaps even more so now given his relative success.

He's outscored Rosberg and Ricciardo since Spain so this would suggest Rosberg finds more difficulty even in an easy car

[Norfolkit]

thegreenhell said:

dinkel said:

thegreenhell said:

F1 cars must be far too easy to drive if someone can be promoted to the sport after having only driven in cars, of any kind, for just half a season.

Funny to read back the comments.

I stand by my previous comments, perhaps even more so now given his relative success.

Hardly unique though, Kimi was almost as inexperienced when he came into F1, granted he was older, if anything I would have thought the cars are more complex to drive than when Kimi started.

[DeltonaS]

Norfolkit said:

thegreenhell said:

dinkel said:

thegreenhell said:

F1 cars must be far too easy to drive if someone can be promoted to the sport after having only driven in cars, of any kind, for just half a season.

Funny to read back the comments.

I stand by my previous comments, perhaps even more so now given his relative success.

Hardly unique though, Kimi was almost as inexperienced when he came into F1, granted he was older, if anything I would have thought the cars are more complex to drive than when Kimi started.

We all know winning races in a Mercedes is easy, but;

Hardly unique ? Relative success ?

The 18 year old kid broke every F1 record he could, youngest ever in everything to date. Making overtaking manoeuvres most F1 drivers never make in their entire career, WHILE being pretty much faultless (besides Monaco), nursing tyres like a veteran, promoted to RedBull after just 1 season and a bit in F1, winning his first race in a RedBull, beating Ricciardo in every race but one (points are awarded on Sunday's), and all that in just 1 1/2 years of F1 after having spend less than a season in F3 which he would've won (like he won everything in karting) if he wasn't testing F1 cars.

If he was British I bet I would experience a completely different attitude around here, but then again that's certainly not unique.

Edited by DeltonaS on Friday 26th August 18:18

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DeltonaS said:

We all know winning races in a Mercedes is easy, but;

Hardly unique ? Relative success ?

The 18 year old kid broke every F1 record he could, youngest ever in everything to date. Making overtaking manoeuvres most F1 drivers never make in their entire career, WHILE being pretty much faultless (besides Monaco), nursing tyres like a veteran, promoted to RedBull after just 1 season and a bit in F1, winning his first race in a RedBull, beating Ricciardo in every race but one (points are awarded on Sunday's), and all that in just 1 1/2 years of F1 after having spend less than a season in F3 which he would've won (like he won everything in karting) if he wasn't testing F1 cars.

If he was British I bet I would experience a completely different attitude around here, but then again that's certainly not unique.

Edited by DeltonaS on Friday 26th August 18:18

As Spa has it's highest attendance since 2002 then it appears his home fans do appreciate the young lad.

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cgt2 said:

As Spa has it's highest attendance since 2002 then it appears his home fans do appreciate the young lad.

There's probably a difference between people who actually know, want to know, the ones who (can bear to) appreciate, fanboy's and people pretending to be know it all's.

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DeltonaS said:

There's probably a difference between people who actually know, want to know, the ones who (can bear to) appreciate, fanboy's and people pretending to be know it all's.

Indeed and maybe those who just love watching a driver who goes for an overtake (particularly if he repeatedly does it on the No.2 Merc!)

[dinkel]

Dutch fans... well... it's like foorball. They are proud he's Dutch but it hardly has anything to do with appreciating Max' skills and talent.

The La Source turn in: it felt like I was watching Ronnie Peterson 40 years ago.

Drivers like Ronnie, Senna, Patrick Depalier, Gilles are getting scarce and I'm with Johnny Herberts comments on the Turn One action.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtdUgYIwYeQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnuC2bfvcHk

With narration by Sir Stirling Moss.

[DeltonaS]

dinkel said:

Dutch fans... well... it's like foorball. They are proud he's Dutch but it hardly has anything to do with appreciating Max' skills and talent.

If you'd replace Dutch with British if would've been just as true (but this thread didn't have just 8 pages).

Whatever his background, Max has talent and skills, otherwise he wasn't at RedBull at the age of 18.

Edited by DeltonaS on Wednesday 31st August 23:18

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dinkel said:

Dutch fans... well... it's like foorball. They are proud he's Dutch but it hardly has anything to do with appreciating Max' skills and talent.

The Dutch (like the Brits) are well known travellers and will attempt to fill many sporting stadia as an excuse to travel and show off their colours.

The OZ GP was always a good one. Seeing Dutch backpackers spending 6 months supply money supporting Jos

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Norfolkit said:

thegreenhell said:

dinkel said:

thegreenhell said:

F1 cars must be far too easy to drive if someone can be promoted to the sport after having only driven in cars, of any kind, for just half a season.

Funny to read back the comments.

I stand by my previous comments, perhaps even more so now given his relative success.

Hardly unique though, Kimi was almost as inexperienced when he came into F1, granted he was older, if anything I would have thought the cars are more complex to drive than when Kimi started.

There have been drivers qualifying single-seaters on pole first weekend straight out of karts and winning races very quickly. I think Kubica in Formula BMW was one.

I remember a Karting instructor saying F1 cars were just giant Karts. I doubt anyone would believe it until you've tried say an F 100C.
I would urge anyone interested in F1 to get hold of one of these and take it to a test day to get an insight to how these kids learnt the trade.