The Official 2014 Belgian Grand Prix Tread ***Spoilers***

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MGJohn

10,203 posts

184 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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StottyEvo said:
RB Will said:
You guys need to stop taking facts and using your bias to interpret them your own way. They are facts there is no interpretation, just what actually happened.
Despite Toto Wolfe and Niki Lauda saying that it was Rosbergs fault. Publicly stating that too, may I add. You still believe we're the biased ones hehe
Could be both Lauda and Wolfe prematurely went off half-cocked. OK, jumped the gun in the heat of the moment. Understandable considering the negative outcome for their team. Bet they regret what they said now. Subsequent comments made by both have been much more measured and considered giving nothing away. Wonder why they've done that.

Fact is those far more qualified to reach a decision than those two main members of M-B F1 management, being not directly involved decided no Stewards' action was necessary. Not even a drive through!

Maybe the Stewards have got it in for our poor hard done by Hamilton. Yes, that's it. Conspire.. conspire ... wink

Now it obviously suits many to regurgitate what the Wolfe and Lauda said so soon after the "racing incident" and ignore their more measured comments sometime later.

Hamilton was unlucky. That is all...

AreOut

3,658 posts

162 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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Speedy11 said:
I think it comes down to the difference between deliberately crashing and deliberately not avoiding a crash which is your fault.
contact is not crash, at no point could Rosberg know the consequences, it could be just a minor contact, it could be no contact at all, it could be him out of the race and LH cruising to victory (most likely in those situations, as Brundle said) or he could get extremely lucky as it unfolded

even if he practiced the situation all day it wouldn't guarantee him repeating it with any degree of certainty

johnfm

13,668 posts

251 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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ZX10R NIN said:
Hamilton expected Rosberg to concede the corner as he had done before except it didn't happen had Hamilton given Rosberg a bit more room he would have gone on to win but Hamilton is a racer so he couldn't concede the corner.

Rosberg having had enough of this especially after Hungary stayed in it far to long and accidentally caused a puncture.

That's it end of it was a racing incident Rosberg's fault but a racing incident none the less
Rosberg didn't have the corner to concede - he was nearly a full car length behind LH, on the outside of the corner.

Another joke post.

deadslow

8,008 posts

224 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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MGJohn said:
StottyEvo said:
RB Will said:
You guys need to stop taking facts and using your bias to interpret them your own way. They are facts there is no interpretation, just what actually happened.
Despite Toto Wolfe and Niki Lauda saying that it was Rosbergs fault. Publicly stating that too, may I add. You still believe we're the biased ones hehe
Could be both Lauda and Wolfe prematurely went off half-cocked. OK, jumped the gun in the heat of the moment. Understandable considering the negative outcome for their team. Bet they regret what they said now. Subsequent comments made by both have been much more measured and considered giving nothing away. Wonder why they've done that.

Fact is those far more qualified to reach a decision than those two main members of M-B F1 management, being not directly involved decided no Stewards' action was necessary. Not even a drive through!

Maybe the Stewards have got it in for our poor hard done by Hamilton. Yes, that's it. Conspire.. conspire ... wink

Now it obviously suits many to regurgitate what the Wolfe and Lauda said so soon after the "racing incident" and ignore their more measured comments sometime later.

Hamilton was unlucky. That is all...
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2014/08/belgian-gp-steward-it-took-10-seconds-to-decide-there-was-no-case-to-answer/

"Former F1 driver Emmanuele Pirro, who was the driver expert on the panel of FIA stewards at the Belgian Grand Prix, has said that the decision not to investigate the Nico Rosberg and Lewis Hamilton collision took them very little time to reach.

Speaking to Italian sports daily La Gazzetta dello Sport, Pirro, 52, said, “We needed less than 10 seconds to decide that the contact was innocuous and not worth pursuing. It was something venial that had unfortunate consequences, but the contact came in a few millimetres, in other words neither of the two cars had sudden movements."

StottyEvo

6,860 posts

164 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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MGJohn said:
StottyEvo said:
RB Will said:
You guys need to stop taking facts and using your bias to interpret them your own way. They are facts there is no interpretation, just what actually happened.
Despite Toto Wolfe and Niki Lauda saying that it was Rosbergs fault. Publicly stating that too, may I add. You still believe we're the biased ones hehe
Could be both Lauda and Wolfe prematurely went off half-cocked. OK, jumped the gun in the heat of the moment. Understandable considering the negative outcome for their team. Bet they regret what they said now. Subsequent comments made by both have been much more measured and considered giving nothing away. Wonder why they've done that.

Fact is those far more qualified to reach a decision than those two main members of M-B F1 management, being not directly involved decided no Stewards' action was necessary. Not even a drive through!

Maybe the Stewards have got it in for our poor hard done by Hamilton. Yes, that's it. Conspire.. conspire ... wink

Now it obviously suits many to regurgitate what the Wolfe and Lauda said so soon after the "racing incident" and ignore their more measured comments sometime later.

Hamilton was unlucky. That is all...
Yes it was a racing incident, I don't think that it should have resulted in any penalties during the race. Although that is a completely separate debate (which we're both in agreement on seemingly) and the stewards did exactly what I would expect them to have done.

Saying that

Rosberg caused the accident, that is clear. It has transpired that he did it half on purpose... Someone used an example of earlier of putting your foot out in front of somebody walking, it seems fitting.

ZX10R NIN

27,629 posts

126 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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johnfm said:
Rosberg didn't have the corner to concede - he was nearly a full car length behind LH, on the outside of the corner.

Another joke post.
If NR was a full car length behind how did he manage to damage LH's tyre & his own wing?

John D.

17,885 posts

210 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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johnfm said:
ZX10R NIN said:
Hamilton expected Rosberg to concede the corner as he had done before except it didn't happen had Hamilton given Rosberg a bit more room he would have gone on to win but Hamilton is a racer so he couldn't concede the corner.

Rosberg having had enough of this especially after Hungary stayed in it far to long and accidentally caused a puncture.

That's it end of it was a racing incident Rosberg's fault but a racing incident none the less
Rosberg didn't have the corner to concede - he was nearly a full car length behind LH, on the outside of the corner.

Another joke post.
I do wonder which race some people are watching sometimes.

John D.

17,885 posts

210 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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ZX10R NIN said:
johnfm said:
Rosberg didn't have the corner to concede - he was nearly a full car length behind LH, on the outside of the corner.

Another joke post.
If NR was a full car length behind how did he manage to damage LH's tyre & his own wing?
He said nearly a full length behind. As in just alongside but nowhere near from having a half car overlap or being remotely close to making a pass.

johnfm

13,668 posts

251 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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ZX10R NIN said:
johnfm said:
Rosberg didn't have the corner to concede - he was nearly a full car length behind LH, on the outside of the corner.

Another joke post.
If NR was a full car length behind how did he manage to damage LH's tyre & his own wing?
Do you understand what 'nearly' means?

NR was nowhere near staking a claim to the corner. He had nothing to concede as he had no chance if making that move.

Yet another example of his inability to overtake.

ZX10R NIN

27,629 posts

126 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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John D. said:
johnfm said:
ZX10R NIN said:
Hamilton expected Rosberg to concede the corner as he had done before except it didn't happen had Hamilton given Rosberg a bit more room he would have gone on to win but Hamilton is a racer so he couldn't concede the corner.

Rosberg having had enough of this especially after Hungary stayed in it far to long and accidentally caused a puncture.

That's it end of it was a racing incident Rosberg's fault but a racing incident none the less
Rosberg didn't have the corner to concede - he was nearly a full car length behind LH, on the outside of the corner.

Another joke post.
I do wonder which race some people are watching sometimes.

Before they turned in Rosberg's front wing was in line with Lewis's front wheel so Lewis knew he was there.

He didn't leave any racing room Nico didn't want to back down again so stayed in it longer than he should have done.

Had Hamilton been thinking about his championship he'd have left Nico racing room & then disappeared into the distance to take 25 points.

Most of the time when wings hit tyres they don't puncture (for example Vettel Alonso)



anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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It really amazes me how some people just don't understand the sport they are watching. yikes

MGJohn

10,203 posts

184 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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jsf said:
It really amazes me how some people just don't understand the sport they are watching. yikes
Please explain it then so I can understand it better.

Now that would be amazing ... wink

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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MGJohn said:
Please explain it then so I can understand it better.

Now that would be amazing ... wink
I don't do miracles John.

MGJohn

10,203 posts

184 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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jsf said:
MGJohn said:
Please explain it then so I can understand it better.

Now that would be amazing ... wink
I don't do miracles John.
What, not even walking on water? Very disappointed in you jsf...

VladD

7,858 posts

266 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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MGJohn said:
jsf said:
It really amazes me how some people just don't understand the sport they are watching. yikes
Please explain it then so I can understand it better.

Now that would be amazing ... wink
John, you don't need it explaining, you understand what happened perfectly. You just choose to pretend otherwise for your own entertainment.

wevster

765 posts

158 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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VladD said:
John, you don't need it explaining, you understand what happened perfectly. You just choose to pretend otherwise for your own entertainment.
Some people are just blinded by their pure hate of a particular driver.

motco

15,963 posts

247 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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Watch this a few times and decide...


John D.

17,885 posts

210 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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ZX10R NIN said:
John D. said:
johnfm said:
ZX10R NIN said:
Hamilton expected Rosberg to concede the corner as he had done before except it didn't happen had Hamilton given Rosberg a bit more room he would have gone on to win but Hamilton is a racer so he couldn't concede the corner.

Rosberg having had enough of this especially after Hungary stayed in it far to long and accidentally caused a puncture.

That's it end of it was a racing incident Rosberg's fault but a racing incident none the less
Rosberg didn't have the corner to concede - he was nearly a full car length behind LH, on the outside of the corner.

Another joke post.
I do wonder which race some people are watching sometimes.

Before they turned in Rosberg's front wing was in line with Lewis's front wheel so Lewis knew he was there.

He didn't leave any racing room Nico didn't want to back down again so stayed in it longer than he should have done.

Had Hamilton been thinking about his championship he'd have left Nico racing room & then disappeared into the distance to take 25 points.

Most of the time when wings hit tyres they don't puncture (for example Vettel Alonso)
rofl

I'm not even going to waste my time pulling apart this one.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

165 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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motco said:
Watch this a few times and decide...

you can watch it until the next GP it isn't going to change Rosberg hits Hamilton.

007 VXR

64,187 posts

188 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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motco said:
Watch this a few times and decide...

MGJohn said:
Hamilton was unlucky. That is all...
Really ?

Ok......
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