Nico's punishment.

Nico's punishment.

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Scuffers

20,887 posts

273 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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hora said:
Sticking my neck out alittle here but...


Renault/Flavio got it in the neck when it came out he ordered his car to crash....

So Nico basically admits to crashing (well it is) into someone on purpose and gets fk all investigation.
if I was being charitable, I would suggest the FIA's view is that as it;s within 1 team, they will deal with it.

makes you wonder what they would have done if he had taken Alonso out....

carinaman

21,222 posts

171 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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It was just Nico helping to add credence to the Senna versus Prost comparisons. wink

anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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hora said:
Sticking my neck out alittle here but...


Renault/Flavio got it in the neck when it came out he ordered his car to crash....

So Nico basically admits to crashing (well it is) into someone on purpose and gets fk all investigation.
A giraffe would have difficulty sticking his neck out more than that! wink

As far as I'm aware only Hamilton has said that Nico said that, but that's been argued to death.

John D.

17,705 posts

208 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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REALIST123 said:
hora said:
Sticking my neck out alittle here but...


Renault/Flavio got it in the neck when it came out he ordered his car to crash....

So Nico basically admits to crashing (well it is) into someone on purpose and gets fk all investigation.
A giraffe would have difficulty sticking his neck out more than that! wink

As far as I'm aware only Hamilton has said that Nico said that, but that's been argued to death.
Have to agree! Very different incidents. Piquet Junior cynically stuffed his car into the wall deliberately. Nico was at least attempting a legit overtake when he decided to leave his nose stuck where it didn't belong.

hairyben

8,516 posts

182 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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Scuffers said:
if I was being charitable, I would suggest the FIA's view is that as it;s within 1 team, they will deal with it.

makes you wonder what they would have done if he had taken Alonso out....
Not the line they adopted when alonso deliberately blocked hamilton in the pit box in qually when they were both mclaren drivers in '07.

Truth is, they pretty much make it up as they go along.

hilly10

7,076 posts

227 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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Its certainly going to make Sundays race watchable

anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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Interesting to see Mosley, Jordan and Watson wading into the Mercedes management for bad management of their drivers. Even calling them the three stooges.

Odd that, although they are almost vitriolic in their criticism, nothing can be found in the way of suggestions as to how they might do it.

Three stooges? Maybe better than three has beens.

hairyben

8,516 posts

182 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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Mosley needs to stay well away from any debate about punishment. .. too many jokes..

TheRealFingers99

1,996 posts

127 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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hora said:
Why cant it be like Marquez v Lorenzo? Lorenzo even congratulated Marquez after the coming together at the Brit motoGp.
I think it's all part of the media hype -- the press has invested too much in the Hamilton/Rosberg thing not to want to keep cranked up. Add to that the insane amounts of money involved.

And, then, we'd have Max Biaggi reminding everyone that it's racing, not ballroom dancing.

No-one seems to get upset in Moto GP even when team mates have a coming together (although I'm sure a few words are spoken off camera).

Hungrymc

6,642 posts

136 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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hora said:
Why cant it be like Marquez v Lorenzo? Lorenzo even congratulated Marquez after the coming together at the Brit motoGp.
Great analogy. Lorenzo closing the door across Marc's front wheel was very hard. And Marc forcing it up the inside was even harder.

So why the different response .....

1) they are not team mates in a title battle.
2) Lorenzo sits fourth in the championship and will not be in the tittle battle.
3) They both respected etiquette in terms of who had won the racing line (only Just!)

And.....

4) Lorenzo didn't get his race ended and his championship challenge seriously disadvantaged by his team mate 'making a point'.

When you actually think about it, would be a better comparison to Bahrain (as no harm was done there). All we got was moaning from Nico.

Maybe you could compare it to Rossi taking Stoner out in the rain in Australia - remember when Rossi went straight to him to appologise and Stoner told him 'your ambition is greater than your talent'... What a t*t - they exist in both forms of Motorsport.


Hungrymc

6,642 posts

136 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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TheRealFingers99 said:
I think it's all part of the media hype -- the press has invested too much in the Hamilton/Rosberg thing not to want to keep cranked up. Add to that the insane amounts of money involved.

And, then, we'd have Max Biaggi reminding everyone that it's racing, not ballroom dancing.

No-one seems to get upset in Moto GP even when team mates have a coming together (although I'm sure a few words are spoken off camera).
Erm... When Marc hit Dani (last year?) and took his rear wheel speed sensor out causing Dani to high side exiting the corner...... There was plenty of discussion about Marc's attitude without any suggestion that he was 'making a point'. Don't forget mercedes have confirmed that Nico felt he had to make a point but dispute that this meant he intended to cause the crash - just not yield the line. The main difference is that Motogp doesn't have the following, money and media interest that F1 does.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

273 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Bike racing is somewhat different..

if you take out your competitor on a bike, you stand a dam good chance of causing him serious injury (or even kill him).

no sane person is going to do that deliberately.

yet another effect of F1 becoming way too safe, no consequences for poor decisions

speedysoprano

224 posts

118 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Park'O said:
Not bad but likely --


RBR - Ricardo / Vergne
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I'll actually eat my hat, and then I'll post it on YouTube so you can all watch if you're so inclined.

But back to the actual topic: they gave Rosberg a fine, and that's not even going to touch the sides. He won't even NOTICE, his paycheque is that big. It'll be interesting to see what they do on race weekends.

road hog

2,561 posts

212 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Rosberg has to do the next "yogurt ad" with Sherzi.. while Mrs Rosberg watches..

that should give him grief for abit...

skinny

5,269 posts

234 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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3 free overtakes that Lewis can use on Nico at any point between now and the end of the season smile

Dakkon

7,826 posts

252 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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Park'O said:
lord trumpton said:
OK heres my thoughts for 2015

Ferrari - Hamilton and Kimmi

McLaren - Alonso and bottas

RB - Ricardo and JB(?)

MB - Rosberg Vettel
Not bad but likely --

Ferrari - Vettel / Bianchi
McLaren - Alonso / Rosberg
RBR - Ricardo / Vergne
Mercedes - Hamilton / Hulkenberg
As it is well known that Nico has recently signed a multi-year deal with Mercedes, it wont be Hamilton / Hulkenberg.

Moobs

278 posts

183 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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not sure if this has been mentioned yet. but if nico hadn't taken avoiding action in Bahrain then hamilton would've had a DNF in that race. Hamilton definatley crossed the line there.

rosberg was trying to proof a point in that it was hamilton who was the danger of colliding cars.

but apart from the Barhrain incident Hamilton has been 'just' within the limits of fair play. Rosberg got it wrong in SPA. So they are considered even in my view.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

273 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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Moobs said:
not sure if this has been mentioned yet. but if nico hadn't taken avoiding action in Bahrain then hamilton would've had a DNF in that race. Hamilton definatley crossed the line there.
please ENOUGH already!




chri5 j t

6 posts

115 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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Hi there.

firstly this is my first post on the site so hopefully I am not jumping in at the deep end and getting it wrong.

Secondly I hope that I am not repeating a question from further up the thread but in light of recent events I was wondering whether people's opinion on the Rosberg Hamilton incident in the qualifying session at Monaco has changed.

I personally felt at the time that Rosberg may of had a hidden agenda and did go off at the corner which resulted in yellow flags but to be fair I am a big Hamilton fan and may not be able to see past my fondness for the man.

Having now seen Rosberg take Hamilton out and the aftermath, ie Rosbergs interviews and him admitting not wanting to back down regardless of the consequences (if I have read it right) I am now further convinced that the Monaco incident was intentional.

Chris.

Jasandjules

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69,825 posts

228 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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chri5 j t said:
Having now seen Rosberg take Hamilton out and the aftermath, ie Rosbergs interviews and him admitting not wanting to back down regardless of the consequences (if I have read it right) I am now further convinced that the Monaco incident was intentional.

Chris.
You are not alone. I gave him the benefit of the doubt at the time. Now I am not so sure.

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