Rosberg calls Hamilton lucky before podium ceremony
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leglessAlex said:
I don't mind Rosberg generally but this really does make him look like a brat. It's childish and unpleasant enough to exclude someone by deliberately speaking a language you know they don't understand, but to then call him lucky when it was Rosbergs own mistake that cost him the race? That's poor form.
I thought exactly this at the time......very rude!
Rude-boy said:
Sorry, I don't just 'enjoy' motorsport, I 'live' it.
I 'enjoy' a game of football because it means little or nothing to me. Once the final whistle goes it's over. I am passionate about motorsport. 3 Weeks old when I went to my first BGP and almost every weekend in the season is trackside nearly 40 years later.
I love my sport, and one of the reasons I love it is the many, many layers. Only enjoying the odd overtake, pit stop or race means you are missing out on so much more.
I'm afraid that you are also talking to someone who's first motorsport love is LM/GT3 cars so there is far more appreciation of the depth than your average motorsport 'fan' who classes themselves as such because they watch most GP's and the BTCC.
Yet despite saying that you live motorsport, you criticise LH, surely one of the most exciting drivers out there, for thinking he’s a rapper and acting like a spoiled child. Oh, and his accent. What’s this got to do with the race?I 'enjoy' a game of football because it means little or nothing to me. Once the final whistle goes it's over. I am passionate about motorsport. 3 Weeks old when I went to my first BGP and almost every weekend in the season is trackside nearly 40 years later.
I love my sport, and one of the reasons I love it is the many, many layers. Only enjoying the odd overtake, pit stop or race means you are missing out on so much more.
I'm afraid that you are also talking to someone who's first motorsport love is LM/GT3 cars so there is far more appreciation of the depth than your average motorsport 'fan' who classes themselves as such because they watch most GP's and the BTCC.
How does a press conference ‘and the like’ take the excitement from what is a tremendous battle between two drivers in the best car?
In previous seasons where we’ve had one car dominate, there has been a favoured driver - MSc and Vettel. This season we have a classic. Indeed, this is likely to be talked about in years to come.
How is it sad?
I support McLaren, yet I’m thoroughly enjoying this season. So you can see I feel certain that pronunciation won’t bother me too much.
Just relax, let the racing take over. It is brilliant.
I predicted this season would be a disaster. Whilst this was not my finest prediction, my reasoning was sound: I suggested one car would dominate.
Drivers differ. Here we have two who are very close on speed in cars that are all but identical. It is tremendous. Even LH’s car breaking down more often is good for spectating. He’s got to come from behind. He probably has the ability to do so. If he’d finished the races and qually where his car failed, he’d probably be off into the distance.
Then there are the battles further down the field. The resurgence of Williams. The surprise of Bottas, the development of Ricciardo, and the bewildering performances of Vettel.
This season is wonderful. How can you be ‘sad’?
So, the PH Jury is no longer "out" on Rosberg.... Hang him high!..... 
I suspect, rather than those outlined in that "dead accurate" multi-lingual verbal exchange translation, Rosberg has one maybe more "valid" reasons to use the term luck where his team mate is concerned... Nod, nod, wink, wink.
Less or maybe more seriously. Being a Motor Sport enthusiast for many years prior to seeing Hamilton first as a very little boy on a Children's TV Programme declare he would one day hope to be the World Champion, I've considered Hamilton lucky in view of subsequent events.
Of the many millions of youngsters with dreams he is that million to one chance that actually realised his dream. How lucky is that?!
Lucky to have a caring father with vision. Lucky to draw the attention of a top F1 team boss etc etc.
Now that's lucky.
Rosberg is very lucky too. His father was a F1 WDC back in the early 1980s. That is pure luck. Clearly remember that as both I and my younger brother had large winning bets on him to do so back then ...
Above all, both are very lucky to be driving at a time when the cars are far easier and safer to drive. another lucky bonus, Circuit safety sanitised to such a high degree that their many mistakes largely go unpunished, unlike many drivers previously.
Right
and leg it before the naysayers gather and my luck runs out ... 
I suspect, rather than those outlined in that "dead accurate" multi-lingual verbal exchange translation, Rosberg has one maybe more "valid" reasons to use the term luck where his team mate is concerned... Nod, nod, wink, wink.
Less or maybe more seriously. Being a Motor Sport enthusiast for many years prior to seeing Hamilton first as a very little boy on a Children's TV Programme declare he would one day hope to be the World Champion, I've considered Hamilton lucky in view of subsequent events.
Of the many millions of youngsters with dreams he is that million to one chance that actually realised his dream. How lucky is that?!
Lucky to have a caring father with vision. Lucky to draw the attention of a top F1 team boss etc etc.
Now that's lucky.
Rosberg is very lucky too. His father was a F1 WDC back in the early 1980s. That is pure luck. Clearly remember that as both I and my younger brother had large winning bets on him to do so back then ...
Above all, both are very lucky to be driving at a time when the cars are far easier and safer to drive. another lucky bonus, Circuit safety sanitised to such a high degree that their many mistakes largely go unpunished, unlike many drivers previously.
Right
and leg it before the naysayers gather and my luck runs out ... 
SlipStream77 said:
Jasandjules said:
I wonder if the luck is he referring to is something we don't know about.
Could be.A lot of people are missing the point about Rosberg speaking Italian though.
He's obviously going to be playing mind games, why wouldn't he?
MGJohn said:
Of the many millions of youngsters with dreams he is that million to one chance that actually realised his dream. How lucky is that?!
Lucky to have a caring father with vision. Lucky to draw the attention of a top F1 team boss etc etc.
Now that's lucky.
Obviously nothing to do with hard work and talent then.Lucky to have a caring father with vision. Lucky to draw the attention of a top F1 team boss etc etc.
Now that's lucky.
Norfolkit said:
MGJohn said:
Of the many millions of youngsters with dreams he is that million to one chance that actually realised his dream. How lucky is that?!
Lucky to have a caring father with vision. Lucky to draw the attention of a top F1 team boss etc etc.
Now that's lucky.
Obviously nothing to do with hard work and talent then.Lucky to have a caring father with vision. Lucky to draw the attention of a top F1 team boss etc etc.
Now that's lucky.
Rosberg was lucky it could be argued as he was born into F1 - but he still had to prove himself. People who say these kids were lucky have no idea.
MGJohn said:
I suspect, rather than those outlined in that "dead accurate" multi-lingual verbal exchange translation *snip*
MGJohn said:
Stuff about luck
For the rest of the stuff about luck, are you suggesting Rosberg was referring to their relative upbringing, their life so far and their future plans immediately after the race?
MGJohn said:
Rosberg has one maybe more "valid" reasons to use the term luck where his team mate is concerned... Nod, nod, wink, wink.
You and you conspiracy theories. Only when it suits you and only when it's to denigrate a great performance form a certain driver.Luck would not be the word any sane person would use to describe a result borne from team orders - i.e. your conspiracy theory about the penalty being Nico throwing a race win. Nico would not refer to it as luck.
Nico's most likely implying Lewis was luck that Nico made two major unforced errors and couldn't get the car to go round the circuit faster than Lewis could. Maybe he genuinely believes it was luck but he'd have been quickly shorn of that excuse when he sees why Lewis was faster, uses less fuel and was able to drive with a more appropriate brake balance... yeah, luck.
Norfolkit said:
MGJohn said:
Of the many millions of youngsters with dreams he is that million to one chance that actually realised his dream. How lucky is that?!
Lucky to have a caring father with vision. Lucky to draw the attention of a top F1 team boss etc etc.
Now that's lucky.
Obviously nothing to do with hard work and talent then.Lucky to have a caring father with vision. Lucky to draw the attention of a top F1 team boss etc etc.
Now that's lucky.
So, he alone the only one with those skills. Millions of others have them and maybe more but, only guilty of not being in the right place at the right time. That's their BAD luck.
IainT said:
MGJohn said:
Rosberg has one maybe more "valid" reasons to use the term luck where his team mate is concerned... Nod, nod, wink, wink.
You and you conspiracy theories. Only when it suits you and only when it's to denigrate a great performance form a certain driver.Luck would not be the word any sane person would use to describe a result borne from team orders - i.e. your conspiracy theory about the penalty being Nico throwing a race win. Nico would not refer to it as luck.
Nico's most likely implying Lewis was luck that Nico made two major unforced errors and couldn't get the car to go round the circuit faster than Lewis could. Maybe he genuinely believes it was luck but he'd have been quickly shorn of that excuse when he sees why Lewis was faster, uses less fuel and was able to drive with a more appropriate brake balance... yeah, luck.
So, you know it all that goes on behind closed doors. You simply do NOT know and that suits you and your stance.
Where have I denigrated the great performance by a certain driver?
Yes, with human nature in mind, I am often guilty of having opinions and slants on things contrary to the main hub of the PH flock. With the passing of time, quite often I am proven correct. Then all goes sheepishly quiet.
I have opinions .... they may differ to yours ... Get used to it.
MGJohn said:
So, you know it all that goes on behind closed doors. You simply do NOT know and that suits you and your stance.
Don't be so utterly ridiculous John - you're the one making a claim of a conspiracy, I'm the one simply stating the outcome we all saw on screen, that the drivers have commented on, that the team has commented on.You have the comedy value to claim I'm the one making an unreasonable statement.
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k me, it cold all be a plot by space aliens from Jupiter all part of a long-term plan to take over the planet. In fact it's so obvious. Yes, it's definitely aliens.MGJohn said:
Where have I denigrated the great performance by a certain driver?
Pretty much any time you can twist a scenario around to it John.MGJohn said:
Yes, with human nature in mind, I am often guilty of having opinions and slants on things contrary to the main hub of the PH flock.
Oh stop painting yourself as some long-suffering martyr. you're not, you're just some random on the internet. Like me.MGJohn said:
With the passing of time, quite often I am proven correct. Then all goes sheepishly quiet.
I have opinions .... they may differ to yours ... Get used to it.
I am used to it. You having and sharing your utterly tedious conspiracy theory but you somehow feel you're above being called on spouting sI have opinions .... they may differ to yours ... Get used to it.
t. Tough, you should have got used to it by now.I'm racking my brains where you've turned out to be right in the long term...
Was it about car-breaker Hamilton? No, guess not.
Was it about mentally fragile Hamilton? No, seems not.
Have you posted about the sun coming up tomorrow morning? Please don't, you might break something.
IainT said:
MGJohn said:
So, you know it all that goes on behind closed doors. You simply do NOT know and that suits you and your stance.
Don't be so utterly ridiculous John - you're the one making a claim of a conspiracy, I'm the one simply stating the outcome we all saw on screen, that the drivers have commented on, that the team has commented on.You have the comedy value to claim I'm the one making an unreasonable statement.
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k me, it cold all be a plot by space aliens from Jupiter all part of a long-term plan to take over the planet. In fact it's so obvious. Yes, it's definitely aliens.MGJohn said:
Where have I denigrated the great performance by a certain driver?
Pretty much any time you can twist a scenario around to it John.MGJohn said:
Yes, with human nature in mind, I am often guilty of having opinions and slants on things contrary to the main hub of the PH flock.
Oh stop painting yourself as some long-suffering martyr. you're not, you're just some random on the internet. Like me.MGJohn said:
With the passing of time, quite often I am proven correct. Then all goes sheepishly quiet.
I have opinions .... they may differ to yours ... Get used to it.
I am used to it. You having and sharing your utterly tedious conspiracy theory but you somehow feel you're above being called on spouting sI have opinions .... they may differ to yours ... Get used to it.
t. Tough, you should have got used to it by now.I'm racking my brains where you've turned out to be right in the long term...
Was it about car-breaker Hamilton? No, guess not.
Was it about mentally fragile Hamilton? No, seems not.
Have you posted about the sun coming up tomorrow morning? Please don't, you might break something.
Yesssssss: luck is how Lewis / Nico got on the grid... of course it is, certainly
the only right place was 1st and the only right time was week in / week out how lucky...Edited by LDN on Saturday 13th September 21:11
MGJohn said:
IainT said:
MGJohn said:
So, you know it all that goes on behind closed doors. You simply do NOT know and that suits you and your stance.
Don't be so utterly ridiculous John - you're the one making a claim of a conspiracy, Gassing Station | Formula 1 | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff