Vettel to replace Alonso at Ferrari

Vettel to replace Alonso at Ferrari

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Bonefish Blues

26,795 posts

224 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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...and it would be nice to hear what he really thought, other than just the odd snippet such as at the last race v-a-v the Pit/No pit debacle.

sanf

673 posts

173 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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Clevers said:
McLaren and Alonso have agreed terms but both parties would rather be working with someone else.

Ron would rather have Lewis back and Alonso would rather try Mercedes.

Ron can't stand Alonso, would rather have the younger and faster Hamilton anyway, but will accept Alonso if there is no chance to re-sign Hamilton on a long term deal with Honda.

Both parties are hanging around on the off chance........Hamilton has all the keys.
I'm thinking on these lines, that maybe more of a personal hope than reality-but the whole thing with the delays is very odd.

I think I read that Honda have agreed a 10 year deal with McLaren Is that right? If so why would you put someone in the car on a 1 year contract who clearly doesn't want to be there, who having seen & driven the spangly new Honda engine, plus McLaren 2016 designs, promptly upsticks and leaves for a competitor manufacturer.

In favor of this scenario - Hamilton's complete breakdown of relationship with his 'buddy' Rosberg. Long term links to Ron & McLaren, the warm historic glow of McLaren Honda and Senna, his hero. I don't think it would be that hard for Ron to sell the dream.

For Merc - replacing Hamilton with Alonso is not exactly a bad deal - and would allow them to potentially have team-mates that get on a bit better - although if NR does win the title this weekend then that dynamic could be slightly different.

Vettel hasn't gone to Ferrari because they have the best car - more I suspect the challenge of building the team back up and achieving something Alonso didn't..... Maybe the lure of Honda at McLaren is too great (and Lewis can get his Yellow helmet back, with the McLaren being Red & White - cloud9).

Sorry all I suspect a bit silly - but fun though - would be great.....biggrin

NewMetalSystem

351 posts

180 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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Feel like the only person on this forum who's going to miss the McLaren Mercedes partnership!

Those West-sponsored cars with Mika and David is one of the sights of my childhood. Generation thing, I guess.

Agent Orange

2,194 posts

247 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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sanf said:
For Merc - replacing Hamilton with Alonso is not exactly a bad deal - and would allow them to potentially have team-mates that get on a bit better - although if NR does win the title this weekend then that dynamic could be slightly different.
Imagine that. Nico wins WDC 2014, Lewis returns to McLaren and Alonso drives for Mercedes as the clear number 2 driver... biggrin Good luck negotiating number 1 driver status to the current WDC!

RobGT81

5,229 posts

187 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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I imagine Hamilton is costing Mercedes a bit more than Rosberg? They don't need to pay so much if there car is so quick that anyone can win the championship. Bring Alonso on board and take his sponsorship money instead of paying for Hamilton

NewMetalSystem

351 posts

180 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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RobGT81 said:
I imagine Hamilton is costing Mercedes a bit more than Rosberg? They don't need to pay so much if there car is so quick that anyone can win the championship. Bring Alonso on board and take his sponsorship money instead of paying for Hamilton
Lewis must bring in something in sponsorship. He's also huge in America, which has to be worth something. I have an American roommate at uni this year who knows nothing about F1, but everything about Lewis.

suffolk009

5,425 posts

166 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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I read somewhere (I don't recall where) that Lewis is the most bankable sportsman in the world.

London424

12,829 posts

176 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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RobGT81 said:
I imagine Hamilton is costing Mercedes a bit more than Rosberg? They don't need to pay so much if there car is so quick that anyone can win the championship. Bring Alonso on board and take his sponsorship money instead of paying for Hamilton
Is this the Alonso that is going to be getting paid fortunes??

Lewis is far more marketable around the world than Alonso as well.

Vaud

50,587 posts

156 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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suffolk009 said:
I read somewhere (I don't recall where) that Lewis is the most bankable sportsman in the world.
Since Tiger somewhat blotted his copybook, it's probably true. Interesting that he has dumped his management team.

furtive

4,498 posts

280 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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NewMetalSystem said:
Feel like the only person on this forum who's going to miss the McLaren Mercedes partnership!

Those West-sponsored cars with Mika and David is one of the sights of my childhood. Generation thing, I guess.
Yup probably a generation thing. This is the car from my childhood:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McLaren_MP4/4

sanf

673 posts

173 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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furtive said:
NewMetalSystem said:
Feel like the only person on this forum who's going to miss the McLaren Mercedes partnership!

Those West-sponsored cars with Mika and David is one of the sights of my childhood. Generation thing, I guess.
Yup probably a generation thing. This is the car from my childhood:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McLaren_MP4/4
88-92 were the start of my teenage years and as a massive F1 fan (Nige bow) those McLarens are ace, obviously more of a Williams/Ferrari/Williams fan - but the 91 McLaren was really pretty.

Vaud

50,587 posts

156 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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furtive said:
Yup probably a generation thing. This is the car from my childhood:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McLaren_MP4/4
Me too... (though this was the MP4/7A?)



GCH

3,992 posts

203 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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Vaud said:
Me too... (though this was the MP4/7A?)


That livery made me want to smoke marlboros. Iconic, and would work (and did- when cig sponsorship was tightened up/censored for certain races) even without the marlboro logo.

Still have my senna mclaren mp4/5 Onyx model in that exact livery- my favorite F1 car of all time

Vaud

50,587 posts

156 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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Whilst I think the work on aero in the last 20 years has been truly remarkable, the purity in design of the say, 88-92 cars made them beautiful in their simplicity.

I had the pleasure of being a McLaren pit in 91 and seeing this car up close. smile

suffolk009

5,425 posts

166 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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Vaud said:
Me too... (though this was the MP4/7A?)


Corrr.

Senna. Monaco. The number 1. The best looking F1 car of modern times.

I need a little lie-down.



Vaud

50,587 posts

156 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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suffolk009 said:
Corrr.

Senna. Monaco. The number 1. The best looking F1 car of modern times.

I need a little lie-down.
If you need a lie down after that, then check this gallery out... searchable as well:

http://f1-history.deviantart.com/gallery/?offset=0

RichB

51,597 posts

285 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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Gentlemen, it's all academic. If you want to talk about good looking, indeed stunning, F1 cars just consider these. I know it's an age thing but I remember when these were first wheeled out they had the same impact as when the E-Type Jaguar was launched, every schoolboy went out and bought the Corgi Sharknose Ferrrai!


Dr Z

3,396 posts

172 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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NewMetalSystem said:
Feel like the only person on this forum who's going to miss the McLaren Mercedes partnership!

Those West-sponsored cars with Mika and David is one of the sights of my childhood. Generation thing, I guess.
Same here. Earliest memories of F1 for me. smile

Agent Orange

2,194 posts

247 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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You're all wrong - it's the Brabham BT49. I even had a duvet and pillow cover set of it. biggrin


Vaud

50,587 posts

156 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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Maserati 250F.

But then that was a different era. Each brings their own beauty.

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