Schumachers finest moments

[Grandad Gaz]

After the bad news following his accident, I thought I would remember happier days!

Stuck in 5th gear for a lot of the race and still finishing 2nd shows what talent the man had! http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9mSs2bD_SJUSkkAh45...

[Jasandjules]

You know I still remember watching that race.

[m444ttb]

This is going to turn into a horrible topic sadly. I really hope we see a walking talking Michael at a Grand Prix one day in the future.

[chris_w]

I'm sure I can remember him qualifying at Hungary (but could be Portgual...) and losing it out of the last turn, he did a perfect 360 and crossed the line with a time fast enough for the top half of the grid. But can't find footage on YouTube, anyone else remember this one?

[zac510]

Not really him exactly, but how about coming in on the last lap at Silverstone to take the stop/go penalty?

Yet another occasion during Schumacher's career when FIA had to do a quick re-write of the rules between races

[Tyre Smoke]

zac510 said:

Not really him exactly, but how about coming in on the last lap at Silverstone to take the stop/go penalty?

Yet another occasion during Schumacher's career when FIA had to do a quick re-write of the rules between races

Wasn't it actually crossing the line in the pitlane because of the postion of his pitbox and taking the penalty 'after' the finish?

Clever bit of Brawn/Shuey rule interpretation.

Actually this thread should really be Brawn and Shuey. Together they were probably the best partnership in F1 since Chapman and Clark.

[zac510]

Tyre Smoke said:

Wasn't it actually crossing the line in the pitlane because of the postion of his pitbox and taking the penalty 'after' the finish?

Clever bit of Brawn/Shuey rule interpretation.

Actually this thread should really be Brawn and Shuey. Together they were probably the best partnership in F1 since Chapman and Clark.

Yes he was coming in to serve the penalty when he was supposed to take the chequered flag. I can't recall the outcome of the kerfuffle, I'll have to read up on it.

[GAjon]

zac510 said:

Not really him exactly, but how about coming in on the last lap at Silverstone to take the stop/go penalty?

Yet another occasion during Schumacher's career when FIA had to do a quick re-write of the rules between races

I was thinking of this excact same race, but not for the same reason.

I was seated on the infield of the Becketts complex, pissed wet through and cold.
The Mclarens were by far the superior car in this year and with Mikka at the wheel dominant.
The rain was flowing across the track in rivers and all the cars were coming through the Beckets bends off throttle cruising around then back on throttle for the hanger straight.
When Mikka went off at Bridge (I think, and damaged his front wing) Schumacher must have been given the call to go for it.

What I witnessed the next few time Schumacher came through Becketts was a feat of skill I have'nt seen since.

He came through slamming down the throttle in jabs, the engine barking at every stab, the car twisting and sliding, and his hands sawing at the wheel to keep it in control.

I was never a Schumacher fan, but it was awe inspiring to watch and for me one of his finest moments.

[HereBeMonsters]

Remember that time when he didn't cheat?

[Tyre Smoke]

HereBeMonsters said:

Remember that time when he didn't cheat?

There's always someone who wants to bring a thread down to their own level isn't there?

[HereBeMonsters]

Tyre Smoke said:

HereBeMonsters said:

Remember that time when he didn't cheat?

There's always someone who wants to bring a thread down to their own level isn't there?

Sorry, but for me, that is what he will always be remembered for. I sincerely hope he recovers and we see him back in the sport again in some capacity, but for his entire career, he played the villain superbly - even in his comeback years he had a go at squashing someone between him and a pit wall!

[Tyre Smoke]

That may well be your opinion, but cheap comments aren't really what this thread is about. Plenty of motorsport drivers are single minded and determined.

This thread is about Schuey's finest moments, not a debate on his driving or personality. Consequently it is going to probably attract mostly Schumacher and/or Ferrari fans and nor detractors.

[ralphrj]

chris_w said:

I'm sure I can remember him qualifying at Hungary (but could be Portgual...) and losing it out of the last turn, he did a perfect 360 and crossed the line with a time fast enough for the top half of the grid. But can't find footage on YouTube, anyone else remember this one?

Yep, it was Hungary 1995.

You were right about the laptime too. I can recall the commentator saying that the laptime (including the spin) was faster than his teammate, Johnny Herbert, managed, Herbert was 9th on the grid.

[ooo000ooo]

In Brazil one year he was in second (I think) right behind the other car. On the second corner he started running wide every lap, commentators reckoned he was understeering or something, after about 10 laps of running wider and wider each lap it turned out that he'd been cleaning that part of the corner so that, when ready, he was able to pracically drive round the outside of the car he was trying to pass on a corner that was normally impossible to overtake on.

[ralphrj]

zac510 said:

Yes he was coming in to serve the penalty when he was supposed to take the chequered flag. I can't recall the outcome of the kerfuffle, I'll have to read up on it.

In the end nothing happened.

Ferrari were given notice of the penalty 2 laps from the end of the race but the rules said you had up to 3 laps to take a penalty. They tried to take the penalty on the final lap to minimise the time lost driving down the pitlane at the limit (i.e. he would have accelerated out of his pitbox and immediately across the line). However, the finish line for the GP is not in the same place as the start line so Schumacher finished the race before reaching his pitbox.

The penalty was for passing under yellow flags but the rules at the time said that the stewards could only apply a penalty up to 25 minutes after an offence occurred. The stop and go was issued after this time had elapsed so was not valid.

The stewards then decided to apply a time penalty (which wouldn't have changed the result). However, again the rules said you could only do this for an infraction that occurred in the last 12 laps. The offence had occurred 17 laps before the end so this wasn't valid either.

Therefore the original result stood.

The stewards were sacked.

[HereBeMonsters]

Tyre Smoke said:

That may well be your opinion, but cheap comments aren't really what this thread is about. Plenty of motorsport drivers are single minded and determined.

This thread is about Schuey's finest moments, not a debate on his driving or personality. Consequently it is going to probably attract mostly Schumacher and/or Ferrari fans and nor detractors.

Ah, the old car forum rule..."any feedback gratefully received, as long as it's positive..."

[Eric Mc]

Even villains have good moments. I would suggest that Schumacher's best moments have occurred outside of the world of F1. He has been very generous with his time and money regarding charitable causes - without seeking any praise or recognition.

I'd prefer to remember him for this rather than what he did in motor racing, to be honest.

[anonymous-user]

HereBeMonsters said:

Tyre Smoke said:

That may well be your opinion, but cheap comments aren't really what this thread is about. Plenty of motorsport drivers are single minded and determined.

This thread is about Schuey's finest moments, not a debate on his driving or personality. Consequently it is going to probably attract mostly Schumacher and/or Ferrari fans and nor detractors.

Ah, the old car forum rule..."any feedback gratefully received, as long as it's positive..."

So will you also remember Hamilton for his cheating? And Button? Alonso? You name them, there are many cheats, though some with no balancing moments of genius.

[HereBeMonsters]

Eric Mc said:

Even villains have good moments. I would suggest that Schumacher's best moments have occurred outside of the world of F1. He has been very generous with his time and money regarding charitable causes - without seeking any praise or recognition.

I'd prefer to remember him for this rather than what he did in motor racing, to be honest.

Well said. Away from the wheel of a racing car, he seems like a genuinely nice person, with a very altruistic and understated private life.

Behind the wheel, he was evidently a fabulously talented driver, which makes some of his actions even more questionable in my opinion. But if you don't want to address the elephant in the room in this thread, then so be it.

My nomination would of course be his introduction to the Formula. Qualifying 7th in the 1991 Jordan at Spa, of all places. Surely an indication of the raw talent that would later be honed by Brawn and Briatore.

[frumpytrickle]

I remember that during his Ferrari era when he went out for qualifying, he'd set pole, then spend the rest of the hour beating his own times, lap after lap for no reason other than to please the crowds and himself. Love him or hate him (and as a german man, most brits sadly dont love him) for me, this is the kind of man he was. A true, dominant, enthusiastic racer.

Get well soon Micheal