Welcome back Jenson?

Welcome back Jenson?

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Mr_Thyroid

1,995 posts

226 months

Friday 17th October 2014
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daveinaravecave said:
...... and even if he had the best car for the most of 2009, is still a WDC, ....
Sorry to be picky but I don't think he had the best car for most of the season. He had a dominant car in the early dry races and then by Turkey, where he got his last win, the Red Bulls were better but Vettel threw away the win on the first lap. For the last 10 races no one was consistent enough to close the lead he'd built.

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

151 months

Friday 17th October 2014
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Also people always say it like it isn't true for most champions!

MGJohn

10,203 posts

182 months

Saturday 18th October 2014
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Mr_Thyroid said:
daveinaravecave said:
...... and even if he had the best car for the most of 2009, is still a WDC, ....
Sorry to be picky but I don't think he had the best car for most of the season. He had a dominant car in the early dry races and then by Turkey, where he got his last win, the Red Bulls were better but Vettel threw away the win on the first lap. For the last 10 races no one was consistent enough to close the lead he'd built.
That's how I read the season.

Vocal Minority said:
Also people always say it like it isn't true for most champions!
True but only some folks say that.

TheAngryDog

12,394 posts

208 months

Saturday 18th October 2014
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JoyJuice said:
Wow. Tough guy.
Hard as nails me hehe

MissChief

7,095 posts

167 months

Saturday 18th October 2014
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col68 said:
Kevin's potential trajectory is upwards and he has proved he can race , yes he's made a few mistakes but has impressed in and out of the car .......I for one hope he retains his seat at Mclaren.....Perez has certainly got the better of the much hyped Hulkenberg in the second half of the season, another driver Mclaren should probably have retained.....again points tables don't tell the full story.
Perhaps but it is one quantifiable marker of a drivers performance, especially against their teammate who (usually) has the same equipment.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

163 months

Saturday 18th October 2014
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I thought Alonso had his own team to go to?.

joema

2,644 posts

178 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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an Alonso Button and Webber Porsche in WEC would be fun

RichB

51,433 posts

283 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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johnxjsc1985 said:
I thought Alonso had his own team to go to?.
Isn't that a cycling team?

Roo

11,503 posts

206 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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RichB said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
I thought Alonso had his own team to go to?.
Isn't that a cycling team?
Didn't buy it in the end did he?

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

163 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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I thought he was considering his own F1 team Moviestar was mentioned.

sideways man

1,307 posts

136 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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Jenson has said in the past he wasn't interested in any endurance series,but I suspect that was only to keep his F1 hopes alive.

If he does go to the WEC I'm sure he will be exactly like Martin Brundle was,when leaving F1 for TWR Jaguar,depressed as hell untill the realisation that the cars are nearly as quick-faster in some areas- the drivers are just as competitive, and some great circuits.

With his 'easy on the car' driving style he should be successful, my only concern is that as car setup is necessarily a compromise,(2 or more drivers)he might not get the car exactly to his liking.

RichB

51,433 posts

283 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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Roo said:
RichB said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
I thought Alonso had his own team to go to?.
Isn't that a cycling team?
Didn't buy it in the end did he?
I don't know, I didn't keep up with the news on that.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

163 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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I know the F1 Driver situation is "complicated" regarding who actually employs them etc but come on if you want your Car to finish and bring points for the constructors then is there anyone better than Jenson.Are MaClaren going to Honda engines next year because again Jenson has a very good relationship with Honda.Or did I just make that up?

longblackcoat

5,047 posts

182 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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johnxjsc1985 said:
I know the F1 Driver situation is "complicated" regarding who actually employs them etc but come on if you want your Car to finish and bring points for the constructors then is there anyone better than Jenson.
Yes, statistically there are several.


johnxjsc1985 said:
Are MaClaren going to Honda engines next year because again Jenson has a very good relationship with Honda.
They're going to Honda engines, but Jenson's relationship with Honda has zero to do with it


johnxjsc1985 said:
Or did I just make that up?
Yep

scubadude

2,618 posts

196 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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How deep are Porsche's Le Mans pockets... Webber, Alonso, Button for 2015?

Certainly headline grabbing even if it lacks experience.

Fordy Bob

59 posts

146 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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Alonso did start this years Le Mans 24hrs and was treated like royalty,the courtship started round about then.

Matt..

3,586 posts

188 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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I do really like Button, but would quite like him to retire now. We've got quite a few drivers there now that are on 10yrs+, and i think that's retirement time, and time to let someone new in.

Alonso: 14yrs
Button: 15yrs
Massa: 12yrs
Raikkonen: 12yrs

blueg33

35,580 posts

223 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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Matt.. said:
I do really like Button, but would quite like him to retire now. We've got quite a few drivers there now that are on 10yrs+, and i think that's retirement time, and time to let someone new in.

Alonso: 14yrs
Button: 15yrs
Massa: 12yrs
Raikkonen: 12yrs
Yes out of a field of 40 plus drivers those four ar still on the top 25% performance and consistency wise (not sure about Raikkonon as he seems a bit off form this year)

RichB

51,433 posts

283 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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blueg33 said:
...(not sure about Raikkonon as he seems a bit off form this year)
laugh Normal service resumed eh!

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

163 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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It seems a bit unfair to suggest Jenson should leave because people are bored seeing him and want new blood.