Welcome back Jenson?

Welcome back Jenson?

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andygo

6,804 posts

255 months

Sunday 5th October 2014
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Why would he want to do that though? Not sure I'd want to be there if I was him.

I read elsewhere that he has a idea of touring around in a motorhome.

But I digress, he has to have precedence over Mag, who whilst is a nice chap, hasn't got the skillz of a Button. IMHO

Matt_N

8,902 posts

202 months

Sunday 5th October 2014
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Europa1 said:
This. Great call by JB to move onto the intermediate wet tyres when he did - once again proving his great skill in those conditions, and his ability to call a race without nannying from his engineers.

I would love to see him stay at McLaren, but I fear he will lose out. If McLaren do bin him, I would love to see Kimi call it quits, Grosjean to Ferrari and JB to a Mercedes-engine, rejuvenated Lotus team.

Oh, and off topic rant, but as F1 indulges in its latest round of navekl gazing as to why it is losing popularity, can they please consider speaking plain English - today Coulthard was babbling on about the "pitstop delta". Eventually I realised what he meant was how long a pitstop took...
Delta is a very commonly used term in the English language though?

Bradgate

2,823 posts

147 months

Sunday 5th October 2014
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Today was an absolutely superb performance from Jenson, exactly what you would expect from a vastly experienced former world champion. It's interesting that he was obviously extremely nervous when he spoke to Ted Kravitz before the race, yet when the safety car went in, he was the person thinking quickest.

Let's hope it has not come too late for him, and that he keeps his seat at McLaren for next season.

TheAngryDog

12,407 posts

209 months

Sunday 5th October 2014
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Bradgate said:
Today was an absolutely superb performance from Jenson, exactly what you would expect from a vastly experienced former world champion. It's interesting that he was obviously extremely nervous when he spoke to Ted Kravitz before the race, yet when the safety car went in, he was the person thinking quickest.

Let's hope it has not come too late for him, and that he keeps his seat at McLaren for next season.
Button has often excelled in tricky conditions like this. Canada 2011 stands out nicely.

F1GTRUeno

6,354 posts

218 months

Sunday 5th October 2014
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Matt_N said:
Delta is a very commonly used term in the English language though?
Who the hell uses delta commonly?

Pilots? Military? Lancia enthusiasts?

In fact, i don't think I've ever heard it used in an actual, real life conversation.

BigBen

11,641 posts

230 months

Sunday 5th October 2014
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F1GTRUeno said:
Matt_N said:
Delta is a very commonly used term in the English language though?
Who the hell uses delta commonly?

Pilots? Military? Lancia enthusiasts?

In fact, i don't think I've ever heard it used in an actual, real life conversation.
Commonly used in engineering and sciences.

F1GTRUeno

6,354 posts

218 months

Monday 6th October 2014
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BigBen said:
F1GTRUeno said:
Matt_N said:
Delta is a very commonly used term in the English language though?
Who the hell uses delta commonly?

Pilots? Military? Lancia enthusiasts?

In fact, i don't think I've ever heard it used in an actual, real life conversation.
Commonly used in engineering and sciences.
Do engineers and scientists use Delta in everyday conversations outside of work?

mike01606

531 posts

149 months

Monday 6th October 2014
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F1GTRUeno said:
Do engineers and scientists use Delta in everyday conversations outside of work?
Maybe.... I know I do and and usually get a blank look from the Mrs......anyway DC was at work biggrin

F1 needs JB to stay so I hope he can make work.

I agree with some of the earlier comments re: his past relationship with Honda and his popularity in Japan and hopefully that could swing it........

mattdaniels

7,353 posts

282 months

Monday 6th October 2014
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Europa1 said:
Oh, and off topic rant, but as F1 indulges in its latest round of navekl gazing as to why it is losing popularity, can they please consider speaking plain English - today Coulthard was babbling on about the "pitstop delta". Eventually I realised what he meant was how long a pitstop took...
The poor commentators are damned if they do and damned if they don't. They get berated by the racing fans for dumbing things down to appeal to a wider audience then the wider audience berates them for using racing language.

RemarkLima

2,375 posts

212 months

Monday 6th October 2014
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I'm not a scientist nor engineer but I learnt at school that Delta is a term for the difference between two measurements... Maybe I just paid attention.

Cyder

7,053 posts

220 months

Monday 6th October 2014
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RemarkLima said:
I'm not a scientist nor engineer but I learnt at school that Delta is a term for the difference between two measurements... Maybe I just paid attention.
This, it's not a complex word and is commonly used.

BMCG

484 posts

136 months

Monday 6th October 2014
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Cyder said:
RemarkLima said:
I'm not a scientist nor engineer but I learnt at school that Delta is a term for the difference between two measurements... Maybe I just paid attention.
This, it's not a complex word and is commonly used.
In the time it took to bemoan its use...google would have resolved the lack of understanding...

we ain't talking Maxwell's equations..or Supersymmetry..



Cyder

7,053 posts

220 months

Monday 6th October 2014
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I'm waiting for DC to put string theory into his commentary next. biggrin

BigBen

11,641 posts

230 months

Monday 6th October 2014
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F1GTRUeno said:
BigBen said:
F1GTRUeno said:
Matt_N said:
Delta is a very commonly used term in the English language though?
Who the hell uses delta commonly?

Pilots? Military? Lancia enthusiasts?

In fact, i don't think I've ever heard it used in an actual, real life conversation.
Commonly used in engineering and sciences.
Do engineers and scientists use Delta in everyday conversations outside of work?
I wouldn't not use it. I tend to assume a basic level of comprehension from people I speak to outside of work and don't seem to have confused anyone too badly so far.

Vaud

50,509 posts

155 months

Monday 6th October 2014
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Cyder said:
RemarkLima said:
I'm not a scientist nor engineer but I learnt at school that Delta is a term for the difference between two measurements... Maybe I just paid attention.
This, it's not a complex word and is commonly used.
Agreed. Used a lot at our place for any finance reference - "whats the delta between the 2 scenarios" - which I then know to mean the numeric £/€ difference rather than the description of the scenario.

Agent Orange

2,194 posts

246 months

Monday 6th October 2014
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Great Dane said:
Keep Mag - future - JB is the past
I wouldn't fundamentally argue with that statement. KMag is the future - just I'm not sure it's now. Likewise I'm not sure Jenson's past is just yet. If this were 2015 and we were discussing 2016 drives I'd likely fully agree.

Assuming Alonso does end up at McLaren for 2015 who would he want as his support driver and someone to take the points from others? And who would the team want to maximise points for a WCC?

KMag a rookie who despite his speed keeps costing the team points. He's fast but not consistent and a large % of his points came in the very first race. Of course in 2015 he may find that consistency.
Or Jenson. An experienced driver who knows how to pick up the points and consistently does so in a car that most agree is pretty average.

It's a tough management call.

Vaud

50,509 posts

155 months

Monday 6th October 2014
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Agent Orange said:
It's a tough management call.
I think if I could park Magnussen in a mid tier team for 2 years with some Honda support then it would be easy. Who are the Honda customer teams from 2016?

Or if I could have a 3rd car...

JontyR

1,915 posts

167 months

Monday 6th October 2014
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Vaud said:
Cyder said:
RemarkLima said:
I'm not a scientist nor engineer but I learnt at school that Delta is a term for the difference between two measurements... Maybe I just paid attention.
This, it's not a complex word and is commonly used.
Agreed. Used a lot at our place for any finance reference - "whats the delta between the 2 scenarios" - which I then know to mean the numeric £/€ difference rather than the description of the scenario.
Basic Maths....most people have done some differentiation in their time...the d (or delta) is change, hence velocity ds/dt is rate of change of distance.

So although it is possibly the latest buzz word to be using, and will soon be up there with ya know, basically, like and probably literally, it is a well known word.

HTP99

22,552 posts

140 months

Monday 6th October 2014
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JontyR said:
Vaud said:
Cyder said:
RemarkLima said:
I'm not a scientist nor engineer but I learnt at school that Delta is a term for the difference between two measurements... Maybe I just paid attention.
This, it's not a complex word and is commonly used.
Agreed. Used a lot at our place for any finance reference - "whats the delta between the 2 scenarios" - which I then know to mean the numeric £/€ difference rather than the description of the scenario.
Basic Maths....most people have done some differentiation in their time...the d (or delta) is change, hence velocity ds/dt is rate of change of distance.

So although it is possibly the latest buzz word to be using, and will soon be up there with ya know, basically, like and probably literally, it is a well known word.
I am 39 and don't recall ever having used the word "delta", or having ever heard it being used in normal every day conversation.

BigBen

11,641 posts

230 months

Monday 6th October 2014
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HTP99 said:
JontyR said:
Vaud said:
Cyder said:
RemarkLima said:
I'm not a scientist nor engineer but I learnt at school that Delta is a term for the difference between two measurements... Maybe I just paid attention.
This, it's not a complex word and is commonly used.
Agreed. Used a lot at our place for any finance reference - "whats the delta between the 2 scenarios" - which I then know to mean the numeric £/€ difference rather than the description of the scenario.
Basic Maths....most people have done some differentiation in their time...the d (or delta) is change, hence velocity ds/dt is rate of change of distance.

So although it is possibly the latest buzz word to be using, and will soon be up there with ya know, basically, like and probably literally, it is a well known word.
I am 39 and don't recall ever having used the word "delta", or having ever heard it being used in normal every day conversation.
Even in conjunction with rivers or airlines?