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RichB said:
on Dennis isn't known for his understanding of people's feelings. Button clearly feels he's off after Abu Dhabi.
This. To me, McLaren under Whitmarsh was a much more human, likeable organisation. In recruiting Boullier, who strangely I liked when he was Team Principal at Lotus, he seems to have recruited a Mini-Me that Dr Evil would be proud of in terms of attitude. Yes, it's a tough sport/business, but there is also a concept of "PR" that stops you coming across as a bunch of arrogant, unfeeling, yet totally indecisive pricks.RichB said:
MartG said:
RichB said:
Vocal Minority said:
Latest rumour on Daily sports car is that Audi are emerging as a WEC dark horse..
I know this thread is about Jenson but in what way are Audi dark horses? Haven't they won the championship for the last few years? 
onyx39 said:
evenflow said:
Shocking if it's Jenson's final race and he doesn't get a proper send off.
Bearing in mind the PR disaster that this becoming for McLaren, would they really allow that to happen, or perhaps this means he's not going anywhere?onyx39 said:
Bearing in mind the PR disaster that this becoming for McLaren, would they really allow that to happen, or perhaps this means he's not going anywhere?
In what way is it a PR disaster for McLaren? Do they really care what a few people on an internet forum think and will rush into a decision just for the sake of pleasing a few people rather than waiting for the decision they need from elsewhere to be able to announce what they would really like to do? If anything it is a PR disaster for Alonso as he is the one who hasn't said anything, or is he stuck because Ferrari won't commit in which case it is their PR disaster.People are talking about McLaren and JB, it isn't doing either of them any harm.
dr_gn said:
I'm pretty sure you'll find that apart from on a few forums, not may people really gives a toss whether he stays or goes.
Quite. The majority of Formula 1s audience are currently worrying about something more important, and if he does go, will go 'that's outrageous!' Then promptly forget about it and the world will carry on as normal.In many ways we are blessed, not having anything better to get outraged about than a millionaire's continued employment...
Vocal Minority said:
dr_gn said:
I'm pretty sure you'll find that apart from on a few forums, not may people really gives a toss whether he stays or goes.
Quite. The majority of Formula 1s audience are currently worrying about something more important, and if he does go, will go 'that's outrageous!' Then promptly forget about it and the world will carry on as normal.In many ways we are blessed, not having anything better to get outraged about than a millionaire's continued employment...
I have (used to have?) a soft spot for mclaren but haven't found anything good to say about them in a long time.
Despite what Bernie purports to think, social media has an increasingly large influence on businesses, not least F1 Teams and their respective sponsors/partners.
It's no longer possible to dismiss this level of vitriol continually being directed at McLaren on FB/Twitter as being a few F1 geeks on the internet venting. Brand values are everything.
And rightly so IMHO.
It's no longer possible to dismiss this level of vitriol continually being directed at McLaren on FB/Twitter as being a few F1 geeks on the internet venting. Brand values are everything.
And rightly so IMHO.
dr_gn said:
onyx39 said:
evenflow said:
Shocking if it's Jenson's final race and he doesn't get a proper send off.
Bearing in mind the PR disaster that this becoming for McLaren, would they really allow that to happen, or perhaps this means he's not going anywhere?LivingTheDream said:
dr_gn said:
onyx39 said:
evenflow said:
Shocking if it's Jenson's final race and he doesn't get a proper send off.
Bearing in mind the PR disaster that this becoming for McLaren, would they really allow that to happen, or perhaps this means he's not going anywhere?How is the "hate" going to manifest itself in any significant way to McLaren, once the Buttonless team lines up next year?
Are people going to close their eyes every time a McLaren appears in a TV shot?
dr_gn said:
No, but so what?
How is the "hate" going to manifest itself in any significant way to McLaren, once the Buttonless team lines up next year?
Are people going to close their eyes every time a McLaren appears in a TV shot?
Of course not but if they are turning off their fans - which is the impression I get, then less fans means less merchandising and will lead to less sponsor interest - surely!How is the "hate" going to manifest itself in any significant way to McLaren, once the Buttonless team lines up next year?
Are people going to close their eyes every time a McLaren appears in a TV shot?
LivingTheDream said:
dr_gn said:
No, but so what?
How is the "hate" going to manifest itself in any significant way to McLaren, once the Buttonless team lines up next year?
Are people going to close their eyes every time a McLaren appears in a TV shot?
Of course not but if they are turning off their fans - which is the impression I get, then less fans means less merchandising and will lead to less sponsor interest - surely!How is the "hate" going to manifest itself in any significant way to McLaren, once the Buttonless team lines up next year?
Are people going to close their eyes every time a McLaren appears in a TV shot?
McLaren aren't going to turn the corner simply by having a 'nice' driver.
dr_gn said:
LivingTheDream said:
dr_gn said:
onyx39 said:
evenflow said:
Shocking if it's Jenson's final race and he doesn't get a proper send off.
Bearing in mind the PR disaster that this becoming for McLaren, would they really allow that to happen, or perhaps this means he's not going anywhere?How is the "hate" going to manifest itself in any significant way to McLaren, once the Buttonless team lines up next year?
Are people going to close their eyes every time a McLaren appears in a TV shot?
I hope for McLaren's sake, Honda are pumping in huge numbers.
Vocal Minority said:
People do that on Twitter. All the time. About everything.
They will forget by half way through testing next season
Yes they do, and any company that cares about it's image normally do whatever they need to do address the concerns ASAP vs. complaining through non-social media channels.They will forget by half way through testing next season
evenflow said:
@McLarenF1
Guys, we know you're awaiting news on our driver line-up. We'll announce after Dec 1 – you'll hear it here first. All eyes now on Abu Dhabi.
Shocking if it's Jenson's final race and he doesn't get a proper send off.
Could the 'after Dec 1' be driven by the date when entry fees for next year have to be paid in full ? By early Dec they will know for certain if 3 car teams will be requiredGuys, we know you're awaiting news on our driver line-up. We'll announce after Dec 1 – you'll hear it here first. All eyes now on Abu Dhabi.
Shocking if it's Jenson's final race and he doesn't get a proper send off.
f1_dragon said:
dr_gn said:
LivingTheDream said:
dr_gn said:
onyx39 said:
evenflow said:
Shocking if it's Jenson's final race and he doesn't get a proper send off.
Bearing in mind the PR disaster that this becoming for McLaren, would they really allow that to happen, or perhaps this means he's not going anywhere?How is the "hate" going to manifest itself in any significant way to McLaren, once the Buttonless team lines up next year?
Are people going to close their eyes every time a McLaren appears in a TV shot?
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