***** Russian Grand Prix 2014 ***** (contains spoilers)
Discussion
tonybhr said:
To be honest, I think any racer would want his team to respect/honour him by running another car rather than keep it in the garage. Having Rossi run would be in no way disrespectful, in my opinion.
Forza Jules
I'm of the opposite opinion, did they do this in the 60s and 70s where serious accidents were a lot more common? I can't help but think its just a response to the ridiculous modern social media culture, where everyone has to give their sympathy for everybody else in the public domain. Of course its upsetting to see a drive hurt, but I'm sure Jules wouldn't want the team to be at a disadvantage because of him, he'd want to be out there racing. Maybe I'm just a disrespectful a hole. Forza Jules
With regards to actual on track action, whats going on with the Mclaren's! Actually look like they might have a hint of pace this weekend!
whatleytom said:
tonybhr said:
To be honest, I think any racer would want his team to respect/honour him by running another car rather than keep it in the garage. Having Rossi run would be in no way disrespectful, in my opinion.
Forza Jules
I'm of the opposite opinion, did they do this in the 60s and 70s where serious accidents were a lot more common? I can't help but think its just a response to the ridiculous modern social media culture, where everyone has to give their sympathy for everybody else in the public domain. Of course its upsetting to see a drive hurt, but I'm sure Jules wouldn't want the team to be at a disadvantage because of him, he'd want to be out there racing. Maybe I'm just a disrespectful a hole. Forza Jules
With regards to actual on track action, whats going on with the Mclaren's! Actually look like they might have a hint of pace this weekend!
Steve57 said:
What a crock of s
t!I'm not being funny - yes, it's sad what happened to dear old Bianchi, however that's motor racing. Since time immemorial people have been injured and killed in horrific motor racing accidents (many worse than Bianchi's). But life goes on. The race goes on. Every single driver climbs into that cockpit knowing there is a good chance they may very well not climb back out. But that's the risk they take to live that life, that dream ( and shag those birds
).I say they shouldn't be 'devastated this happened to Jules' but instead be celebrating the wonderful racing he did provide throughout many years from karting all through the formulae up to F1.
I am pretty damn sure that he wouldn't want his car sitting in his pit garage all weekend - I'm sure he'd much rather someone else had the chance of taking out his car and giving the team a chance, however slim, to put some more points on the board. Yes, it's unlikely, however a new circuit means new possibilities (and good old Putin, or Vladdy as we like to call him may well have created an interesting set of results with the new circuit).
LDN said:
whatleytom said:
tonybhr said:
To be honest, I think any racer would want his team to respect/honour him by running another car rather than keep it in the garage. Having Rossi run would be in no way disrespectful, in my opinion.
Forza Jules
I'm of the opposite opinion, did they do this in the 60s and 70s where serious accidents were a lot more common? I can't help but think its just a response to the ridiculous modern social media culture, where everyone has to give their sympathy for everybody else in the public domain. Of course its upsetting to see a drive hurt, but I'm sure Jules wouldn't want the team to be at a disadvantage because of him, he'd want to be out there racing. Maybe I'm just a disrespectful a hole. Forza Jules
With regards to actual on track action, whats going on with the Mclaren's! Actually look like they might have a hint of pace this weekend!
assumed tony was in favour of not running without fully reading! Sniff petrol:
There was surprise in Sochi today as Russia announced that President Vladimir Putin is to enter and win this weekend’s Grand Prix.
The stoat-faced psycho is expected to take part in the race using his own specially constructed Putintron Puthousand car fitted with a 9-litre V12 engine and tyres made from those who have disagreed with him.
‘The West needs to realise what a talented, handsome and substantially genitalled man the President is,’ said a spokesman. ‘He is a skilled cook, artist, skydiver, poet, glass blower, acrobat, horse analyst, airship pilot, pastry chef, hovercraft operative and street mime. Now the entire world will see he is also number one race driver of all time.’
‘The other drivers will easily move out of the way for the President,’ our source continued. ‘First, because they will recognise his superior skill. And second, because they will want to see their families again.’
To the surprise of many in the paddock, Putin’s aim to take victory in his very first F1 race has met with no resistance from the sport’s organisers. ‘Bernie does not mind. We understand each other,’ Mr Putin is quoted as saying in an interview with Russian television. ‘After all, where do you think I got the idea for my leadership style?’
There was surprise in Sochi today as Russia announced that President Vladimir Putin is to enter and win this weekend’s Grand Prix.
The stoat-faced psycho is expected to take part in the race using his own specially constructed Putintron Puthousand car fitted with a 9-litre V12 engine and tyres made from those who have disagreed with him.
‘The West needs to realise what a talented, handsome and substantially genitalled man the President is,’ said a spokesman. ‘He is a skilled cook, artist, skydiver, poet, glass blower, acrobat, horse analyst, airship pilot, pastry chef, hovercraft operative and street mime. Now the entire world will see he is also number one race driver of all time.’
‘The other drivers will easily move out of the way for the President,’ our source continued. ‘First, because they will recognise his superior skill. And second, because they will want to see their families again.’
To the surprise of many in the paddock, Putin’s aim to take victory in his very first F1 race has met with no resistance from the sport’s organisers. ‘Bernie does not mind. We understand each other,’ Mr Putin is quoted as saying in an interview with Russian television. ‘After all, where do you think I got the idea for my leadership style?’
williamp said:
Sniff petrol:
There was surprise in Sochi today as Russia announced that President Vladimir Putin is to enter and win this weekend’s Grand Prix.
The stoat-faced psycho is expected to take part in the race using his own specially constructed Putintron Puthousand car fitted with a 9-litre V12 engine and tyres made from those who have disagreed with him.
‘The West needs to realise what a talented, handsome and substantially genitalled man the President is,’ said a spokesman. ‘He is a skilled cook, artist, skydiver, poet, glass blower, acrobat, horse analyst, airship pilot, pastry chef, hovercraft operative and street mime. Now the entire world will see he is also number one race driver of all time.’
‘The other drivers will easily move out of the way for the President,’ our source continued. ‘First, because they will recognise his superior skill. And second, because they will want to see their families again.’
To the surprise of many in the paddock, Putin’s aim to take victory in his very first F1 race has met with no resistance from the sport’s organisers. ‘Bernie does not mind. We understand each other,’ Mr Putin is quoted as saying in an interview with Russian television. ‘After all, where do you think I got the idea for my leadership style?’
I love Sniff. But don't they usually refer to Bernie at the "sThere was surprise in Sochi today as Russia announced that President Vladimir Putin is to enter and win this weekend’s Grand Prix.
The stoat-faced psycho is expected to take part in the race using his own specially constructed Putintron Puthousand car fitted with a 9-litre V12 engine and tyres made from those who have disagreed with him.
‘The West needs to realise what a talented, handsome and substantially genitalled man the President is,’ said a spokesman. ‘He is a skilled cook, artist, skydiver, poet, glass blower, acrobat, horse analyst, airship pilot, pastry chef, hovercraft operative and street mime. Now the entire world will see he is also number one race driver of all time.’
‘The other drivers will easily move out of the way for the President,’ our source continued. ‘First, because they will recognise his superior skill. And second, because they will want to see their families again.’
To the surprise of many in the paddock, Putin’s aim to take victory in his very first F1 race has met with no resistance from the sport’s organisers. ‘Bernie does not mind. We understand each other,’ Mr Putin is quoted as saying in an interview with Russian television. ‘After all, where do you think I got the idea for my leadership style?’
t haired evil dwarf"?williamp said:
Sniff petrol:
There was surprise in Sochi today as Russia announced that President Vladimir Putin is to enter and win this weekend’s Grand Prix.
The stoat-faced psycho is expected to take part in the race using his own specially constructed Putintron Puthousand car fitted with a 9-litre V12 engine and tyres made from those who have disagreed with him.
‘The West needs to realise what a talented, handsome and substantially genitalled man the President is,’ said a spokesman. ‘He is a skilled cook, artist, skydiver, poet, glass blower, acrobat, horse analyst, airship pilot, pastry chef, hovercraft operative and street mime. Now the entire world will see he is also number one race driver of all time.’
‘The other drivers will easily move out of the way for the President,’ our source continued. ‘First, because they will recognise his superior skill. And second, because they will want to see their families again.’
To the surprise of many in the paddock, Putin’s aim to take victory in his very first F1 race has met with no resistance from the sport’s organisers. ‘Bernie does not mind. We understand each other,’ Mr Putin is quoted as saying in an interview with Russian television. ‘After all, where do you think I got the idea for my leadership style?’
There was surprise in Sochi today as Russia announced that President Vladimir Putin is to enter and win this weekend’s Grand Prix.
The stoat-faced psycho is expected to take part in the race using his own specially constructed Putintron Puthousand car fitted with a 9-litre V12 engine and tyres made from those who have disagreed with him.
‘The West needs to realise what a talented, handsome and substantially genitalled man the President is,’ said a spokesman. ‘He is a skilled cook, artist, skydiver, poet, glass blower, acrobat, horse analyst, airship pilot, pastry chef, hovercraft operative and street mime. Now the entire world will see he is also number one race driver of all time.’
‘The other drivers will easily move out of the way for the President,’ our source continued. ‘First, because they will recognise his superior skill. And second, because they will want to see their families again.’
To the surprise of many in the paddock, Putin’s aim to take victory in his very first F1 race has met with no resistance from the sport’s organisers. ‘Bernie does not mind. We understand each other,’ Mr Putin is quoted as saying in an interview with Russian television. ‘After all, where do you think I got the idea for my leadership style?’
PurpleMoonlight said:
I must say I find all this talk about increasing safety and ensuring what happened last weekend never happens again a bit strange when they are about to race on a circuit that appears to be bordered by concrete barriers only feet from the track!!!
I think that's a misunderstanding of how safety works.See Kubica in Canada 2007.
These are situations where the car has been designed to protect the driver. It's expected to hit solid barriers at speed. And consideration for that has been put into the design and testing.
Problems happen when you introduce something into the environment that hasn't been considered in the design. e.g. Heavy construction equipment.
London424 said:
Wasn't that when the Mercs weren't really trying though? We've seen how much faster they are when they turn everything up...and nothing I've seen all year makes me think any team has really closed much of the gap.
I'm not so sure that the Mercs weren't trying hard as they squabbled with each other...last weekend the wet circuit probably played a part in equalising a bit but not a whole lot! I definitely think the MP4-29 is showing some promise. Would wait till the weekend is over before getting excited for next year. Just hope Honda is on the ball.Well, they reckoned the updates at Japan helped the rear and overall downforce level, but they didn't have enough front end downforce to balance it (hence Mag asking for more front wing a few times and being told there was none left) - today they have their new front wing back on the car after some revisions, and it appears it might be working, so could be interesting to see how much better they are.
Munter said:
These are situations where the car has been designed to protect the driver. It's expected to hit solid barriers at speed. And consideration for that has been put into the design and testing.
Problems happen when you introduce something into the environment that hasn't been considered in the design. e.g. Heavy construction equipment.
Sorry, I'm struggling to see a material difference between a lump of concrete and a sump of steel, except the latter may not be a uniform flat surface.Problems happen when you introduce something into the environment that hasn't been considered in the design. e.g. Heavy construction equipment.
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