Jules Bianchi updates
Discussion
It is always very sad to hear of a Driver, or anyone else for that matter, passing away as a result of injuries sustained partaking in our sport. It is no less sad in this case, even if you get the impression that perhaps this is a release for all directly concerned.
I wish the Bianchi family the peace that they deserve and feel heartened that they appear to have accepted the unacceptable.
I wish the Bianchi family the peace that they deserve and feel heartened that they appear to have accepted the unacceptable.
VolvoT5 said:
Everyone has to be seen to do something and making gestures like this is ideal because it requires absolutely no thought or effort whatsoever but draws a lot of attention to show how caring they are.
Fair enough re: draws attention to how caring they are, perhaps you're right. However, shared expressions of anything be it happiness, grief, or disgust create a sense of community and I think that's a wonderful thing. And re, grief, its a rather abstract and nebulous emotion: for example, i strangely felt more grief when motorcycle doctor John Hinds passed away at the Skerries 100, than i did my own grandmother, with whom I had a good relationship, but she lived to a grand old age. Why is that? i dunno, i never met Hinds, yet feel a kinship with him, and the end of that non-physical relationship is what I mourn. People who are mourning the loss of Bianchi, are empathizing with his family and friends, and also perhaps projecting ourselves into the same situation and how horrible it would be if one of us or our family/friends were racing and died.
For you to not understand this, or to attempt to psychoanalyze people's motivations for sharing grief on the internet is a bit mind-boggling to me to be honest, despite the fact that there is a nugget of truth in your conclusions.
VolvoT5 said:
Really? You are devastated about a guy you have presumably never met? Please accept my apologies if you are his best mate or something....
This is very sad news but all the "#RIP" messages are just a pointless 4 letters typed by people who want to appear to be 'paying tribute' but are too ignorant and lazy to actually write anything thoughtful about the deceased.
As for the outpouring of public 'grief', well it is just nauseating. Most of the people claiming to be devastated and talking about what a wonderful person he was will have never even met the guy; even 99% of those within the F1 paddock will have been colleagues and causal acquaintances at most.
IDK, maybe I'm just a heartless b
d because I also thought all the 'get well' and 'keep fighting' messages about Jules (and Michael) were in very bad taste once the extent of the injuries to both were known.
You should show a bit respect here instead of talking like A, I know it all Asshole. R.I.P Jules. Rest in peace Buddy sleep tight.This is very sad news but all the "#RIP" messages are just a pointless 4 letters typed by people who want to appear to be 'paying tribute' but are too ignorant and lazy to actually write anything thoughtful about the deceased.
As for the outpouring of public 'grief', well it is just nauseating. Most of the people claiming to be devastated and talking about what a wonderful person he was will have never even met the guy; even 99% of those within the F1 paddock will have been colleagues and causal acquaintances at most.
IDK, maybe I'm just a heartless b
d because I also thought all the 'get well' and 'keep fighting' messages about Jules (and Michael) were in very bad taste once the extent of the injuries to both were known. https://youtu.be/OzRZkXsNKlg?t=56s
Happy times.
Footage of Jules going hell for leather in the final laps of Monaco 2014 to negate his 5 second penalty and get his points
His little 'woo hoo' at 2:35 makes me sad though
Happy times.
Footage of Jules going hell for leather in the final laps of Monaco 2014 to negate his 5 second penalty and get his points
His little 'woo hoo' at 2:35 makes me sad though
Edited by RenOHH on Monday 20th July 23:24
Wow - did not expect such a response to my "devastated" post.
I am an avid F1 fan and admire all drivers that race at this level, from the front of the grid to the back, I observed Bianchi as a podium placed driver in the future, he had potential, and it came to a very grim end at suzuka, not going to justify myself to an inadequate internet Volvo driving warrior. It was devastating news to hear he had passed away, just as it was when Simoncelli died, Senna, and many of the other racing personalities that passed away doing what they loved. I did not expect such an attempt at oneman-upmanship! Unbelievable.
I am an avid F1 fan and admire all drivers that race at this level, from the front of the grid to the back, I observed Bianchi as a podium placed driver in the future, he had potential, and it came to a very grim end at suzuka, not going to justify myself to an inadequate internet Volvo driving warrior. It was devastating news to hear he had passed away, just as it was when Simoncelli died, Senna, and many of the other racing personalities that passed away doing what they loved. I did not expect such an attempt at oneman-upmanship! Unbelievable.
RenOHH said:
https://youtu.be/OzRZkXsNKlg?t=56s
Happy times.
Footage of Jules going hell for leather in the final laps of Monaco 2014 to negate his 5 second penalty and get his points
His little 'woo hoo' at 2:35 makes me sad though
Lovely - thank you. Great to see him doing what he loved and doing it well ...Happy times.
Footage of Jules going hell for leather in the final laps of Monaco 2014 to negate his 5 second penalty and get his points
His little 'woo hoo' at 2:35 makes me sad though
Edited by RenOHH on Monday 20th July 23:24
I thought I better not post my thoughts on the subject until after the weekend, everyone has their opinions (right or wrong) and this is mine.....
If I'm honest I found the whole situation surrounding JB this weekend more than a little distasteful. F1 and in particular Sky TV (whose coverage I watch so I can't comment on the BBC) seemed to actively chase the "in morning" angle at every turn desperately. It's very sad that a driver has succumbed to his injuries sustained in the sport, but I can't help feeling they made so much of it not as a tribute to Jules, but as a ratings push to glamourise the (negligible) danger in F1 these days.
Although not a fan of the driver, I was aware of his exploits at the back of the field and was genuinely chuffed for the team at Monaco when they scored their point(s).
If I'm honest, I felt that the whole Sky F1 team were making so much more than necessary of this for no better reason than the recent fascination of Ayrton Senna's death. Tributes in qualifying, all parts of the race show and an hour long Jules Bianchi Specisl for the F1 show on Friday (the Monaco result must have got some amount of repetition) night just felt like too much for me. People bandy the term grief porn about quite a bit these days, but I did wonder if perhaps they'd gather all the drivers together on Sunday and let off some balloons or some such before the race. And then the minutes silence happened.....
As a mark of respect, I don't think I could have imagined a more disrespectful occasion than wheeling out his clearly distressed family the same week that they buried their son and brother for F1's elite to fawn over in front of the worlds press. Not to mention, the effect it must of had on some of the drivers who actually were close to him.
I can only imagine the circus that will erupt should MS sadly pass from his injuries.
If I'm honest I found the whole situation surrounding JB this weekend more than a little distasteful. F1 and in particular Sky TV (whose coverage I watch so I can't comment on the BBC) seemed to actively chase the "in morning" angle at every turn desperately. It's very sad that a driver has succumbed to his injuries sustained in the sport, but I can't help feeling they made so much of it not as a tribute to Jules, but as a ratings push to glamourise the (negligible) danger in F1 these days.
Although not a fan of the driver, I was aware of his exploits at the back of the field and was genuinely chuffed for the team at Monaco when they scored their point(s).
If I'm honest, I felt that the whole Sky F1 team were making so much more than necessary of this for no better reason than the recent fascination of Ayrton Senna's death. Tributes in qualifying, all parts of the race show and an hour long Jules Bianchi Specisl for the F1 show on Friday (the Monaco result must have got some amount of repetition) night just felt like too much for me. People bandy the term grief porn about quite a bit these days, but I did wonder if perhaps they'd gather all the drivers together on Sunday and let off some balloons or some such before the race. And then the minutes silence happened.....
As a mark of respect, I don't think I could have imagined a more disrespectful occasion than wheeling out his clearly distressed family the same week that they buried their son and brother for F1's elite to fawn over in front of the worlds press. Not to mention, the effect it must of had on some of the drivers who actually were close to him.
I can only imagine the circus that will erupt should MS sadly pass from his injuries.
Agreed to a point. The whole series of events since the news broke has felt a bit odd to me. The hashtags in particular. One driver also asked his fans to come up with the message for him to run on his helmet. It feels to me like the marketing men are grinning in the background peeking through a curtain of grief.
Jimmm said:
It feels to me like the marketing men are grinning in the background peeking through a curtain of grief.
I think there is probably an element of "how do we respond?" (especially given the length of time since the accident) - you even heard it in the chat before the drivers went on the podium, but to suggest that that there are marketing men "grinning in the background" is naive in my view - having your key assets die in a sport does not attract sponsors...There is no easy response to the death, each driver/team did their own thing in my view.
I don't think it's about attracting sponsors. I just can't think why you'd want to remember someone in a hashtag? If my best friend died I wouldn't start a hashtag about it. Anyway I don't want to get into a debate about it online more of a mull over in the pub kind of conversation. The whole chain of events is very sad and I feel sorry that it dragged out for so long for the family. Hopefully now he has passed and the whole motor sport world has paid tribute they will have some closure.
LaurasOtherHalf said:
I thought I better not post my thoughts on the subject until after the weekend, everyone has their opinions (right or wrong) and this is mine.....
If I'm honest I found the whole situation surrounding JB this weekend more than a little distasteful. F1 and in particular Sky TV (whose coverage I watch so I can't comment on the BBC) seemed to actively chase the "in morning" angle at every turn desperately. It's very sad that a driver has succumbed to his injuries sustained in the sport, but I can't help feeling they made so much of it not as a tribute to Jules, but as a ratings push to glamourise the (negligible) danger in F1 these days.
Although not a fan of the driver, I was aware of his exploits at the back of the field and was genuinely chuffed for the team at Monaco when they scored their point(s).
If I'm honest, I felt that the whole Sky F1 team were making so much more than necessary of this for no better reason than the recent fascination of Ayrton Senna's death. Tributes in qualifying, all parts of the race show and an hour long Jules Bianchi Specisl for the F1 show on Friday (the Monaco result must have got some amount of repetition) night just felt like too much for me. People bandy the term grief porn about quite a bit these days, but I did wonder if perhaps they'd gather all the drivers together on Sunday and let off some balloons or some such before the race. And then the minutes silence happened.....
As a mark of respect, I don't think I could have imagined a more disrespectful occasion than wheeling out his clearly distressed family the same week that they buried their son and brother for F1's elite to fawn over in front of the worlds press. Not to mention, the effect it must of had on some of the drivers who actually were close to him.
I can only imagine the circus that will erupt should MS sadly pass from his injuries.
I think this is pretty much what I was trying to express, although I didn't do so in quite as eloquent or sensitive tone.If I'm honest I found the whole situation surrounding JB this weekend more than a little distasteful. F1 and in particular Sky TV (whose coverage I watch so I can't comment on the BBC) seemed to actively chase the "in morning" angle at every turn desperately. It's very sad that a driver has succumbed to his injuries sustained in the sport, but I can't help feeling they made so much of it not as a tribute to Jules, but as a ratings push to glamourise the (negligible) danger in F1 these days.
Although not a fan of the driver, I was aware of his exploits at the back of the field and was genuinely chuffed for the team at Monaco when they scored their point(s).
If I'm honest, I felt that the whole Sky F1 team were making so much more than necessary of this for no better reason than the recent fascination of Ayrton Senna's death. Tributes in qualifying, all parts of the race show and an hour long Jules Bianchi Specisl for the F1 show on Friday (the Monaco result must have got some amount of repetition) night just felt like too much for me. People bandy the term grief porn about quite a bit these days, but I did wonder if perhaps they'd gather all the drivers together on Sunday and let off some balloons or some such before the race. And then the minutes silence happened.....
As a mark of respect, I don't think I could have imagined a more disrespectful occasion than wheeling out his clearly distressed family the same week that they buried their son and brother for F1's elite to fawn over in front of the worlds press. Not to mention, the effect it must of had on some of the drivers who actually were close to him.
I can only imagine the circus that will erupt should MS sadly pass from his injuries.
I really hope the family are now left alone to come to terms with their loss.
The family were invited by Bernie, they accepted, not sure what the problem is. I'dimagine the family were around his racing career for a very long time, they would have known numerous people in the pitlane and would have welcomed seeing them. I've just got back from the 18th birthday party in Spain, with 9 of her close friends, of a girl who past away over a year ago - it meant everything to the family though.
Jimmm said:
It feels to me like the marketing men are grinning in the background peeking through a curtain of grief.
That's a particularly elegant way of putting it, I think.That said it was a bit of a shock to me as a reasonably casual observer to be reminded that JB's death is the first since Ayrton Senna and Roland Ratzenberger in 1994. There's been some pretty spectacular crashes in the meantime (Webber going upside down springs to mind). Really goes to show how far the technology has come.
Durzel said:
Jimmm said:
It feels to me like the marketing men are grinning in the background peeking through a curtain of grief.
That's a particularly elegant way of putting it, I think.That said it was a bit of a shock to me as a reasonably casual observer to be reminded that JB's death is the first since Ayrton Senna and Roland Ratzenberger in 1994. There's been some pretty spectacular crashes in the meantime (Webber going upside down springs to mind). Really goes to show how far the technology has come.
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