Jules Bianchi updates

Jules Bianchi updates

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BlimeyCharlie

903 posts

142 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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jsf said:
This thread is for updates on Jules condition, not speculation.

Best wishes to Jules and his family.
With all due respect to the spirit behind this topic, it would seem people just can't read.
I've noticed a typical forum now seems to just be a place to spout out an opinion without actually reading things beforehand.

To be honest, there are plenty of places to get updates without having to wade through opinions of the masses.
People just can't help themselves.
Of course I wish him well, he is in the right place and hopefully things will improve.

Gazzab

21,091 posts

282 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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BlimeyCharlie said:
jsf said:
This thread is for updates on Jules condition, not speculation.

Best wishes to Jules and his family.
With all due respect to the spirit behind this topic, it would seem people just can't read.
I've noticed a typical forum now seems to just be a place to spout out an opinion without actually reading things beforehand.

To be honest, there are plenty of places to get updates without having to wade through opinions of the masses.
People just can't help themselves.
Of course I wish him well, he is in the right place and hopefully things will improve.
Irony?

BlimeyCharlie

903 posts

142 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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Gazzab said:
BlimeyCharlie said:
jsf said:
This thread is for updates on Jules condition, not speculation.

Best wishes to Jules and his family.
With all due respect to the spirit behind this topic, it would seem people just can't read.
I've noticed a typical forum now seems to just be a place to spout out an opinion without actually reading things beforehand.

To be honest, there are plenty of places to get updates without having to wade through opinions of the masses.
People just can't help themselves.
Of course I wish him well, he is in the right place and hopefully things will improve.
Irony?
Having read through this topic for 'updates' there are very few, because there have been very few actual updates.
The other posts are as I've pointed out above. I'm just as guilty probably.

n3il123

2,607 posts

213 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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Update on grandprix.com

Five days after Jules Bianchi's life-threatening crash at Suzuka, there is "no significant change" in his health condition, father Philippe has revealed.

Bianchi's father was speaking on Thursday to the French daily Nice-Matin, adding that the messages of support from the F1 paddock and around the world have been encouraging to the family.

"It really has been tremendous and something that I could not even imagine," he said, "even if I know that Jules is a nice boy."

As for 25-year-old Bianchi's condition, however, Philippe admitted that the situation is very serious.

"Professor Saillant and the Italian specialist who came at the request of Ferrari are cooperating fully with the local doctors," said Philippe Bianchi.

"So he could not be better cared for. There are no significant changes. Everyone knows that he is in a critical phase.

"But Jules fights like he has always fought. Just as in the races. He is strong."

Italy's La Gazzetta dello Sport reports that Bianchi's siblings Tom and Melanie have travelled to Japan to be with their brother, as has the Marussia driver's best friend Lorenz.

Brabus Jord

1,589 posts

207 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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Such a shame that he has been injured as he was so promising and no one deserve to be hurt doing something they love.

Have they released details around what injuries he has? I know they have stated its head injuries and it very serious but I haven't seen any more detail. I appreciate it is very personal and why they wouldn't release it.

HarryFlatters

4,203 posts

212 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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Brabus Jord said:
Such a shame that he has been injured as he was so promising and no one deserve to be hurt doing something they love.

Have they released details around what injuries he has? I know they have stated its head injuries and it very serious but I haven't seen any more detail. I appreciate it is very personal and why they wouldn't release it.
Diffuse Axonal Injury

Brabus Jord

1,589 posts

207 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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oh gosh - not something that one can recover from quickly such as a broken bone etc.

Badgerboy

1,783 posts

192 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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It is recoverable however, Hammond suffered the same in his crash and made what appears to be a full recovery.

Until the severity and a prognosis is given however everything is just sadly speculation.

GCH

3,991 posts

202 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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Gaz. said:
Hammond could breath on his own though.
Where has it been officially stated that Jules could not/cannot?





Graham

16,368 posts

284 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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GCH said:
Where has it been officially stated that Jules could not/cannot?
it was reported he was on a ventilator, and its not been reported that hes been taken off it

HughG

3,547 posts

241 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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There hasn't been any news since Tuesday though has there? Unless I've missed something. Everything since is just speculation.

MitchT

15,865 posts

209 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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Graham said:
GCH said:
Where has it been officially stated that Jules could not/cannot?
it was reported he was on a ventilator, and its not been reported that hes been taken off it
In the Japanese GP thread I quoted a BBC article which reported that he was breathing unassisted, but they later changed their story to say that this information had come from an un-verified source. There have, in fact, been no official statements as to whether he's breathing unassisted or not so all we can conclude is that we don't know.

gaz1234

5,233 posts

219 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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I saw the vid. Be surprised if he races again..

RicksAlfas

13,394 posts

244 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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GCH said:
Where has it been officially stated that Jules could not/cannot?
Today's F1 Show.

Lot of love and support throughout the pit lane being shown.
Marussia have built Bianchi's car and have his garage and pit boards all set up. Very sad. They are only running Max this weekend.

woof

8,456 posts

277 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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Graham said:
GCH said:
Where has it been officially stated that Jules could not/cannot?
it was reported he was on a ventilator, and its not been reported that hes been taken off it
and that was again confirmed today on SKY F1 coverage.
DAI:
The outcome is frequently coma, with over 90% of patients with severe DAI never regaining consciousness. Those who do wake up often remain significantly impaired. Let's hope he's got a little more luck on his side.


MartG

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20,675 posts

204 months

Tuesday 14th October 2014
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Latest statement from his father - no real change it seems frown

http://www.f1today.net/en/news/father-philippe-bia...

McSam

6,753 posts

175 months

Tuesday 14th October 2014
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Before I add anything, I wish people would read the thread so as not to repeat information or questions already here.

The lack of change in Jules' condition concerns me greatly because particularly with this sort of injury, the longer a coma is sustained, the further the chance of restoring full function is reduced. I know we're only up to nine days now, but the lack of even gradual improvement in his condition makes it look like a long haul, with corresponding risk of him never being returned to his former self.

I'm not sure how much data survived from the car, but it would be interesting to know the peak deceleration. These guys are bolted into the cars pretty firmly, so the car's readings would give a decent indication of what Jules suffered, and DAI is associated with severe deceleration rather than any sort of direct impact.

aberdeeneuan

1,344 posts

178 months

Tuesday 14th October 2014
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Scarbs tweeted that there was apparently a 92g deceleration in his earpiece.


Bradgate

2,823 posts

147 months

Tuesday 14th October 2014
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What a dispiriting statement from Jules' father.

Sadly, it appears there is little cause for optimism, or even hope frown.


garycat

4,398 posts

210 months

Tuesday 14th October 2014
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JB's head suffered a 92G impact according to this German piece

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/formel-1/verzoe...

Translated by Google


G-sensor in the ear measures 92 g

Jules Bianchi has survived the critical hours after his accident at Suzuka. This gives the family hope. His father Philippe Bianchi quoted the doctors, who spoke in view of the impact of a miracle. It is heard that the delay is said to have amounted to 92 g on the head.

Jules Bianchi has survived the critical first 24 hours after his accident at Suzuka. Then the critical first 72 hours. A glimmer of hope comes. His father, Philippe told the Gazzetta dello Sport: "The situation is desperate Every time the phone rings, it could be the hospital with the news that Jules is no longer alive, but he fights he will pass the main qualifying round of his life... . He does not give up. since I'm sure. His coach Andrea says that when one can create with his will, then Jules. "

Still, the 25-year-old Frenchman is in the ICU of the General Hospital in Yokkaichi Mie. In critical but stable condition. Bianchi's father told the renowned Italian sports newspaper also: "The doctors tell us that it is a miracle Never ever a man has survived such a terrible accident.." The FIA compared the accident of his dynamism here with that of Heikki Kovalainen at the Spanish GP 2008 The Finn then struck 130 km / h in the tire wall. In the case of Bianchi stood a massive obstacle in the way.

Bianchi's safety cell remained intact

In fact, had incredible forces at the impact of the Marussia in the mountains crane. The 9-ton vehicle was lifted five feet in the air. The Marussia came within 5 meters to a standstill. The entire left side of the vehicle was missing. The roll bar was separated from as a knife. The neck guard that will catch the head in the cockpit soft, was later found back in the engine compartment.

The chassis had a crack from the front bulkhead to the cockpit area. Nevertheless, Bianchi was recovered with no visible physical damage from the wreck. Another proof of how well the safety precautions in the formula 1 function. The safety cell remained intact, including the left side wall, which houses the neck protection.

The data from the black box are part of the accident report, the FIA ​​president Jean Todt handed to the Security Commission of the World Federation under the leadership of Peter Wright. They contain the velocities in the development of the accident and upon impact, to three-dimensional delay forces. The report is confidential.

Charlie Whiting said at the FIA ​​press conference in Sochi on the question whether a cage would have helped only. "The forces were far above what a roll bar of a formula has to withstand one-car When we have problems, one around the fly wheel hold by a cage, it is unlikely that there is something so resists impact. "

G-sensor in the ear attaches delay in Bianchi-accident

This season, it is mandatory that drivers carry in their earplugs G-sensors. Measure the delay on the head. You must not be equivalent to the the car, because the head is different accelerates and decelerates as the vehicle. HANS and neck protection ensure that the helmet is a soft landing. Which distributes the delay over a period of time.

In the case of Bianchi is to be measured by the sensors of the ear incredible value of 92 g. This is understandable when the doctors call it a miracle. The crucial question here is, over what time period.

Luciano Burti came in 2001 with his accident in Spa on a peak of just over 80 g. However, over a short period of time. The Brazilian got away with a brain contusion. However, it was not far, and Burti would have suffered very much more serious injuries.

The FIA ​​wants to win with the ear sensors in the analysis of accidents even better data. Using this data, accidents with original helmets are adjusted in the TRL labs. This helps them better understand and prepare for future cases.

In our photo gallery we have compiled the delay values ​​of some other serious accidents in Formula 1.