Jolyon Palmer - F1

Jolyon Palmer - F1

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Jeanpierre

21 posts

114 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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Lincsblokey said:
Poor old Jolyon gets a mention in this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmwJnjnwTFI&fe...
Load of Rubbish - I can't believe anyone would actually waste valuable drinking time putting that together!

Probably all over for anyone trying to get into F1, now that Marussia have joined Caterham in administration, unless you're a Red Bull Junior, of course.

n3il123

2,607 posts

213 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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Jeanpierre said:
Load of Rubbish - I can't believe anyone would actually waste valuable drinking time putting that together!

Probably all over for anyone trying to get into F1, now that Marussia have joined Caterham in administration, unless you're a Red Bull Junior, of course.
I found it quite funny, but then I have been about them a bit so maybe understand.

And btw I have massive respect for what jp has done turning some quite frankly st circuits into some of the best in the country.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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n3il123 said:
Jeanpierre said:
Load of Rubbish - I can't believe anyone would actually waste valuable drinking time putting that together!

Probably all over for anyone trying to get into F1, now that Marussia have joined Caterham in administration, unless you're a Red Bull Junior, of course.
I found it quite funny, but then I have been about them a bit so maybe understand.

And btw I have massive respect for what jp has done turning some quite frankly st circuits into some of the best in the country.
Hmmm. We were racing at all of the MSV circuits before MSV and whilst they have improved, especially over the last few years, it is a bit disingenuous to say they were 'quite frankly st'.

Back in the day, Cadwell wasn't the most popular place, for cars, and I haven't been there for years so don't know how it is these days but BH, Oulton and Snet were fine.

The facilities are better these days but there has been a high price to pay for that. For the competitors, quite literally.

carinaman

21,292 posts

172 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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He's father is on the Motor Sport magazine podcast, but I don't know if Jolyon gets mentioned. I should imagine Caterham and Marussia would be mentioned depending on when it was recorded.

Jeanpierre

21 posts

114 months

Sunday 2nd November 2014
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longblackcoat said:
It's taken him 4 seasons and he's 23; taken too long, he's too old.

The F1 teams are really looking for drivers who make a BIG impact in Year 1 (even if they don't win the title outright) of the junior formulae rather than someone who's honed their skills over a much longer period.

I think he's got zero chance, though it would be nice to be wrong.
Marcus Ericsson, same age, did four seasons in GP2 without winning the title, sizeable budget took him into F1 with Caterham, now signed by Sauber for 2015.

If Palmer had a half-decent budget I am sure he would have half a chance of getting a seat, or would have had before four seats disappeared last week.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 2nd November 2014
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Jeanpierre said:
longblackcoat said:
It's taken him 4 seasons and he's 23; taken too long, he's too old.

The F1 teams are really looking for drivers who make a BIG impact in Year 1 (even if they don't win the title outright) of the junior formulae rather than someone who's honed their skills over a much longer period.

I think he's got zero chance, though it would be nice to be wrong.
Marcus Ericsson, same age, did four seasons in GP2 without winning the title, sizeable budget took him into F1 with Caterham, now signed by Sauber for 2015.

If Palmer had a half-decent budget I am sure he would have half a chance of getting a seat, or would have had before four seats disappeared last week.
Yes, Ericsson has taken his very decent budget to Sauber. There are dozens of drivers who could get 'signed' if they had the money. Palmer should have a better chance than most of buying a seat, if he wants to.


Jeanpierre

21 posts

114 months

Friday 7th November 2014
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So, Felipe Nasr uses his substantial Brazilian state bank funding to buy a seat at Sauber. This is a guy who crumbles under pressure and bleats about it being unfair when he gets overtaken after leaving the door wide open, several times. Oh, and he DIDN'T win the GP2 Series .........

carinaman

21,292 posts

172 months

Friday 7th November 2014
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StevieBee said:
I think he carries a few skeletons around. A friend's son was competing in and around Formula Palmer Audi at the same time as Palmer. FPA was billed as an equitable Formula and at the end of each meeting, all cars would be taken back to the same factory......except JPs. When others complained to the FIA, JPs car was then sent back to the same factory with the others but he then mysteriously stopped winning races and scoring pole positions.

I don't doubt the lad has talent - in fact, he clearly has. But I do wonder if things like this play on the minds of the F1 teams when selecting drivers.
I thought of your post after Dr Palmer mentioned how much store he placed on car setup when he was a driver in the Motor Sport magazine podcast:

http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/f1/podcast-with-...

ugofirst

263 posts

111 months

Tuesday 20th January 2015
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FourWheelDrift

88,510 posts

284 months

Tuesday 20th January 2015
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Good option, Maldonado is the favourite every year to get a race ban.

fcuk1_6

189 posts

180 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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Good to hear he's got a third driver role which will hopefully lead to a race seat next year should Grosjean get a better offer or Maldonado losses his backing. Failing that, depending on how Button does against Alonso this year we could see just one Brit on the grid next year which would be a real shame.

Jeanpierre

21 posts

114 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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Lotus's fortunes must surely head north again after last season, especially as they've now got Mercedes power units, so possibly a good move.

Jeanpierre

21 posts

114 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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fk1_6 said:
Good to hear he's got a third driver role which will hopefully lead to a race seat next year should Grosjean get a better offer or Maldonado losses his backing. Failing that, depending on how Button does against Alonso this year we could see just one Brit on the grid next year which would be a real shame.
I think JB and Alonso will work very well together. Let's hope the Honda power unit does too!

woof

8,456 posts

277 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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Lotus always sell test driver roles to anyone with the money But when it comes to replacing a main driver for whatever reason they always find someone else to drive for them. Just ask 2012 GP2 champion Davide Valsecchi wink




FourWheelDrift

88,510 posts

284 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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It didn't hurt Romain Grosjean though.

woof

8,456 posts

277 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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FourWheelDrift said:
It didn't hurt Romain Grosjean though.
He had a pretty good in though - made sense for Droopy to slot in his own driver as soon as it was possible.
Normally Lotus will have 4 or 5 test drivers. They get to do F1 demonstrations etc though JP jnr has been given some Friday drives I think ?

FourWheelDrift

88,510 posts

284 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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GP.com said:
Meanwhile, Bach (Ralf Bach, who writes for Sport Bild and TZ Munchen) also claimed that Pastor Maldonado's place at Lotus is in doubt, as his and the Enstone team's major Venezuelan backer, the state-owned PDVSA, is in crisis over the dramatic fall in oil prices.

He wrote: "Bernie Ecclestone is apparently looking for a buyer for Lotus, because he wants to get rid of the uncomfortable Gerard Lopez.

"He has been trying for some time but so far has found no one."

Rich_W

12,548 posts

212 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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andygo said:
Wife and I thought he was a bit bigheaded when sky interviewed him. Quite supercilious in fact.
I saw the same interview. Didn't warm to him at all. Like many, not a fan of his father either. Seems to be a family trait.

MSV may have stuck silver cladding on the complex at Brands, but it didn't do anything for the frankly st access to the circuit. After spending 4 hours trying to get out after a BSB round many years ago. I'll never return to that place.

speedysoprano

224 posts

119 months

Monday 9th February 2015
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andygo said:
Wife and I thought he was a bit bigheaded when sky interviewed him. Quite supercilious in fact.
sadly, I agree with this - I can't warm to him at all. Not that it's in any way a prerequisite for being an F1 driver...

DanielSan

18,786 posts

167 months

Monday 9th February 2015
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speedysoprano said:
sadly, I agree with this - I can't warm to him at all. Not that it's in any way a prerequisite for being an F1 driver...
Helps when it comes to getting sponsorship for an F1 drive though...