When F1 drivers are embarrassed by winning
Discussion
thiscocks said:
Patrese Monaco '82? Not sure he would have been embarrassed though, just grateful!
I think 2002 Austria is the only one I can think of where the winning driver should have felt embarrassed. The fact he didnt even have the balls to stand on the podium made it even more of a farce. But then again its also slightly Barrichellos fault for stopping practically on the line.
I disagree - I think if I was a racing driver, being instructed to throw a race I was leading fairly comfortably, I'd make it as blindingly obvious as possible that it wasn't any lack of talent on my part which caused me to come in second.I think 2002 Austria is the only one I can think of where the winning driver should have felt embarrassed. The fact he didnt even have the balls to stand on the podium made it even more of a farce. But then again its also slightly Barrichellos fault for stopping practically on the line.
Europa1 said:
I disagree - I think if I was a racing driver, being instructed to throw a race I was leading fairly comfortably, I'd make it as blindingly obvious as possible that it wasn't any lack of talent on my part which caused me to come in second.
That got me thinking about Berger and Patrese having beem gifted wins at the '91 and '92 Japanese GP
smn159 said:
It wasn't the stopping of the race Porst was upset about, he had been calling for that for several laps.It was the fact that they delayed the red flag for so long Senna was able to catch Prost, and take the shine off his win. This race will be forever linked with Senna and Bellof more than Prost who actually won.
hairyben said:
I don't think schumacher was capable of being embarrassed of anything he did..
I see the same nasty little streak in rosberg, not for the couple of unsporting incidents we've seem in themselves but his utter lack repentance/humility when the heats off, massive show of celebrating after Q at monanco etc.
vettel & multi 21 I don't see it as much, because once out the car he did at least make a show of reflecting..
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vettel & multi 21 I don't see it as much, because once out the car he did at least make a show of reflecting..
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FeelingLucky said:
smn159 said:
It wasn't the stopping of the race Porst was upset about, he had been calling for that for several laps.It was the fact that they delayed the red flag for so long Senna was able to catch Prost, and take the shine off his win. This race will be forever linked with Senna and Bellof more than Prost who actually won.
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