2015 - Three car teams?

2015 - Three car teams?

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Gad-Westy

14,571 posts

214 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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samvia said:
London424 said:
MartG said:
Though if the 3rd car doesn't score points, where is the motivation to do anything other than trundle round at the back then retire ?
And certainly no point in putting 3 top drivers in cars.
If it must happen, to me it would make sense that the teams could run 2 top drivers who both score WCC points, and it would allow them to put a young/development/<2 season driver in the 3rd car to earn WDC points only.

e.g. Mercedes run Rosberg & Hamilton as WDC scorers, and put Wehrlein in the 3rd car to gain experience, McLaren could run Alonso/Button/KMag or Alonso/Kmag/Vandoorne.
I haven't fully thought this through, I admit, but I think I'd prefer a scenario where each team's top two finishers in each race score WCC points rather than two nominated drivers. Otherwise I could see some very tedious tactics and orders going on if one of the nominated drivers is running somewhere behind the the non WCC driver, maybe after a pit lane start or some other scenario.

London424

12,829 posts

176 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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Gad-Westy said:
samvia said:
London424 said:
MartG said:
Though if the 3rd car doesn't score points, where is the motivation to do anything other than trundle round at the back then retire ?
And certainly no point in putting 3 top drivers in cars.
If it must happen, to me it would make sense that the teams could run 2 top drivers who both score WCC points, and it would allow them to put a young/development/<2 season driver in the 3rd car to earn WDC points only.

e.g. Mercedes run Rosberg & Hamilton as WDC scorers, and put Wehrlein in the 3rd car to gain experience, McLaren could run Alonso/Button/KMag or Alonso/Kmag/Vandoorne.
I haven't fully thought this through, I admit, but I think I'd prefer a scenario where each team's top two finishers in each race score WCC points rather than two nominated drivers. Otherwise I could see some very tedious tactics and orders going on if one of the nominated drivers is running somewhere behind the the non WCC driver, maybe after a pit lane start or some other scenario.
With that scenario you would be giving the 3 car teams an advantage over the others (more than moving a car out the way I think). As in they have a better chance of scoring points every race.

Esseesse

8,969 posts

209 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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London424 said:
MartG said:
Though if the 3rd car doesn't score points, where is the motivation to do anything other than trundle round at the back then retire ?
And certainly no point in putting 3 top drivers in cars.
Just do the constructors points as an average of all the cars they have, then everyone can be included.

Munter

31,319 posts

242 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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Esseesse said:
Just do the constructors points as an average of all the cars they have, then everyone can be included.
I still think it'll go:
  • 2 car works team in Livery 1
  • 1 car satellite team in a.n.other livery
Then the satelite team competes just as another other team. But little chance of taking the "constructors/team" trophy.

Esseesse

8,969 posts

209 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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Munter said:
Esseesse said:
Just do the constructors points as an average of all the cars they have, then everyone can be included.
I still think it'll go:
  • 2 car works team in Livery 1
  • 1 car satellite team in a.n.other livery
I would hate this. Same cars should be the same colour.

scrwright

2,624 posts

191 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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Just think, you could have a Fiat/Chrysler/Lancia/Jeep F1 team smile

MartG

20,689 posts

205 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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I wonder if Haas is having second thoughts, knowing he'll be very much a second class citizen in F1 for several years at least ?

suffolk009

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5,425 posts

166 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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Sky F1 website has a piece about three car teams next year just to plug the gap before customer cars in 2016.

Oh dear.

Crafty_

13,297 posts

201 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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3 car teams are not confirmed for next year, its only popped up again because of tabloid journalism by Kevin Eason. There are no new agreements or proposals - there are clauses in the Concorde Agreements with some teams and it would appear that some discussion around those items have taken place.

Nothing has been agreed or announced for next year. Provided Bernie gets his 16 cars he doesn't really give a hoot.

This is the same bloke that "broke" the story of there being a boycott that all the team owners denied and never happened.