**** American Grand Prix ***** (contains spoilers)

**** American Grand Prix ***** (contains spoilers)

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DanielSan

18,774 posts

167 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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JonRB said:
This one was particularly awkward.

Watch it if you haven't. It's only 3-4 mins long.
Saw it when they showed it in practice just, it was mightily cringeworthy, almost felt sorry for that promotion fella.

JonRB

74,516 posts

272 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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DanielSan said:
Saw it when they showed it in practice just, it was mightily cringeworthy, almost felt sorry for that promotion fella.
Yes. He clearly didn't want to be drawn into it and quite commendably so.

JonRB

74,516 posts

272 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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I have to say that the VSC is actually a really good idea. I know it is yet more rules and potential infractions, but it removes the temptation to barely lift and is preferable to bringing out an actual SC for every little 'off' like they do in NASCAR and Indycar.

l354uge

2,894 posts

121 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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That'll stop the teams leaving, alienating the big manufacturers by threatening and insulting their new engines hehe

davepoth

29,395 posts

199 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Golf cart shaped like a Hummer. Classy.

Hungrymc

6,651 posts

137 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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They didn't seem very happy did they. I suspect the promoter had spent the last 24 hrs peeing in BE's ear and so he pulled him into the discussion (don't blame me, it the promoters whinging for another rule change - quad points in Texas next year!)

As for RBR running an old car downtown - added to the Seb won't qualify announcement - are they trying to make a point and embarrass someone one?

I still think the cars sound fantastic (not as loud, but a very interesting noise). There has been some terrific racing this year and there is every chance that this weekend will be a cracker.

Chris99

353 posts

160 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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So Bobby Epstein "bought a package" and Bernie's "failed to deliver" - should be interesting!

JonRB

74,516 posts

272 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Hungrymc said:
I still think the cars sound fantastic (not as loud, but a very interesting noise). There has been some terrific racing this year and there is every chance that this weekend will be a cracker.
Totally agree. yes

Chrisgr31

13,467 posts

255 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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That interview is just plain garbage, no idea what Bernie thought he was doing. Obviously spouting rubbish and trying to be controversial and really not sure where it is going to get them

Kinky

39,550 posts

269 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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JonRB said:
I can easily believe that it's a TB of raw data. If you consider how many sensors are on the car and that they're probably sampling each many times a second, then it will mount up very quickly.

As Bruno pointed out, they won't have the bandwidth to transmit that in real time but after each session they'd download the raw data by plugging in.

Bruno seems pretty switched on technically.
On average, it's typically just over 1TB of data. The critical data is transmitted real-time back to the Hub at the back of the pit where it's usually viewed in graphical format and back at the control centre at the teams HQ. Secondary-level data is fed back to HQ and the rest of the data is downloaded afterwards and auto-analysed, highlighting specific areas that they are reviewing, dependent on the race and/or issues/concerns they may have about certain elements of the car.

I wrote an article about this a few years ago with/for one of the current teams. Must see if I can find it anywhere.

JonRB

74,516 posts

272 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Kinky said:
On average, it's typically just over 1TB of data. The critical data is transmitted real-time back to the Hub at the back of the pit where it's usually viewed in graphical format and back at the control centre at the teams HQ. Secondary-level data is fed back to HQ and the rest of the data is downloaded afterwards and auto-analysed, highlighting specific areas that they are reviewing, dependent on the race and/or issues/concerns they may have about certain elements of the car.

I wrote an article about this a few years ago with/for one of the current teams. Must see if I can find it anywhere.
Interesting. Thanks for the insight. thumbup

That sounds completely plausible and reasonable.

JonRB

74,516 posts

272 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Chrisgr31 said:
That interview is just plain garbage, no idea what Bernie thought he was doing. Obviously spouting rubbish and trying to be controversial and really not sure where it is going to get them
Bernie always has an agenda. He doesn't care if it's detrimental to the sport so long as it keeps his trotters in the trough.

Kinky

39,550 posts

269 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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JonRB said:
Interesting. Thanks for the insight. thumbup
wavey

Hope all is well your good self smile

Mr_Thyroid

1,995 posts

227 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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I see Grosjean has a Matt Le Blanc helmet this weekend - is this some weird sponsorship tie-in or are these helmet designs getting a bit ttish?

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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JonRB said:
Chrisgr31 said:
That interview is just plain garbage, no idea what Bernie thought he was doing. Obviously spouting rubbish and trying to be controversial and really not sure where it is going to get them
Bernie always has an agenda. He doesn't care if it's detrimental to the sport so long as it keeps his trotters in the trough.
Bernie's done though, isn't he? He comes across as nothing more than a senile old man, who doesn't have a clue any more about what his business is and where his customers are.

He really should go now, before it's too late.

Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 1st November 09:18

furtive

4,498 posts

279 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Mr_Thyroid said:
I see Grosjean has a Matt Le Blanc helmet this weekend - is this some weird sponsorship tie-in or are these helmet designs getting a bit ttish?
Bianchi is a big Le Blanc fan apparently

JonRB

74,516 posts

272 months

Saturday 1st November 2014
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furtive said:
Bianchi is a big Le Blanc fan apparently
Apparently Matt Le Blanc is attending. Awwwwwwwkward.

vonuber

17,868 posts

165 months

Saturday 1st November 2014
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l354uge

2,894 posts

121 months

Saturday 1st November 2014
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Just to add to the santander cringe-fest earlier....

This is much, much worse

The Hypno-Toad

12,278 posts

205 months

Saturday 1st November 2014
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Just seen that Bernie interview.....

He has lost the fking plot. He looks like doddling old man who should be in a care home worrying about his cocoa. To me he looks very ill, if you look at his bottom lip it's trembling all the time and he is hanging onto that Golf cart for dear life.

I said on another thread I was very worried about what might happen to the sport over the close season. I'm now very worried about what might happen to it over this weekend. Surely he can't think that he can run this sport with just the big five teams? I mean if you wanted to look on the dark side you could say;
Red Bull & Torro Rosso - they make fizzy drinks and it's a marketing exercise. If taking part in F1 doesn't make them sell fizzy drinks then they pull the plug.
Williams - bearly has enough cash to keep going now. Have nearly gone down the pan several times and personally I think the only reason they are around today is that Bernie loves Frank.
Mclaren - no title sponsor and have clearly been short of cash for a number of years. A few years ago Ron would have spent his way out of trouble by hiring the best designers, that is obviously no longer an option. Now he's in bed with Honda who have not the most consistent record of staying in F1 when times get tough and must be looking at the what's gone on in the last month thinking "what the juddering duck have we got ourselves into?"

So that only leaves two teams, Ferrari and Mercedes and no matter how Bernie & Sky might try to hype it, that's not really a sport.

As for the rumours about Audi coming in or even Fred & Lewis setting up their own teams, would you? If you were a CEO of a Fortune 500 company would you even think about suggesting that F1 was something you should be involved in as a sponsor? The board would think you were cuckoo for coco pops.

This morning we could be looking at the end game for our sport. Somebody needs to lean in, take the keys out of Bernies hands and say, "Sorry sir, we don't believe you are in fit condition to drive anymore,"

The above post probably makes no sense at all because it's two in the morning, I've got terrible insomnia and it's on my IPhone.