Rosberg loves the Double Points situ'

Rosberg loves the Double Points situ'

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hairyben

8,516 posts

183 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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Of course he likes the rule now. It represents his best shot at the title. Anyone standing in his shoes from fangio to felipe would be talking it up.

skinny

5,269 posts

235 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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i wouldn't like the change to double points for the last race become decisive in winning the drivers championship between Lewis and Nico as it feels like a completely arbitrary joker - why should one race be randomly worth double any other.

However, if Ricciardo gets it from the last race, I will at least find that quite amusing.

deadslow

7,988 posts

223 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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skinny said:
However, if Ricciardo gets it from the last race, I will at least find that quite amusing.
hehe

LDN

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8,909 posts

203 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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http://www.planetf1.com/driver/18227/9539844/Trio-...

More people comment as the season end is not far away...

Article said:
The 2014 World Championship could yet be decided by the double-points rule in Abu Dhabi, but three F1 legends believe it would devalue the sport.

Lewis Hamilton holds a 17-point lead over Mercedes team-mate Nico Rosberg with only three races to go, but the title race remains wide open as double points will be on offer at the season finale in the United Arab Emirates.

Rosberg has admitted in the build-up to the United States GP that he "loves" the new rule, but Sir Stirling Moss doesn't share his views.

"I have enjoyed the races this year, they have been extremely good," Moss, who finished runner-up in four Championships, told Press Association Sport. "Although there is no doubt to win a race you need a Mercedes engine first, and then you need Lewis.

"Lewis is certainly a very fast, competent driver, and well lined up for his second title.

"But I don't really like the idea of double points at the last race. It seems to be a pretty stupid thing to do."

Surtees, who won the 1965 F1 World Championship as well as four 500cc titles between 1956 and 1960, admits Rosberg should not be written off with the rule in mind.

"It's not a very satisfactory situation," he said.

"It is a gimmick I don't particularly like. I'm not sure it's fair on drivers or teams, but it is a factor.

"So I wouldn't underestimate Nico in any way as he's a very intelligent driver, although he has made the odd mistake lately."

Hamilton initially received a lot of criticism for the way he conducted himself earlier in the season, but Surtees feels he has changed.

"Lewis does appear to have found some calmness in his driving," the 80-year-old added.

"Some of the things he has said and done off the track were once counter-productive for both the sport and for him.

"But it's been pleasing to see he has come to a point where he is focusing more and seems to be presenting himself in a better fashion."

Meanwhile the outspoken Stewart, who won three titles between 1969 and 1973, feels the sport should be kept "pure".

"I'm not a supporter," the 75-year-old said. "I don't think they should be there. We have to keep it pure. I don't think it's going to add anything to the season.

"I would rather the World Championship was won on purity, which means one set of points."

fomb

1,402 posts

211 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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As long as the winner wins by more than 25 points I don't care about the rule wink

The Moose

22,845 posts

209 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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fomb said:
As long as the winner wins by more than 25 points I don't care about the rule wink
Expand as I struggle to understand why?!

tight fart

2,899 posts

273 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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It would also be a shame if Marussia lose their place in the constructors title to the double points.

tight fart

2,899 posts

273 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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It would also be a shame if Marussia lose their place in the constructors title to the double points.

Tony2or4

1,283 posts

165 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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The Moose said:
fomb said:
As long as the winner wins by more than 25 points I don't care about the rule wink
Expand as I struggle to understand why?!
I'm guessing Fomb's point is that if you win by more than 25 points with the double points rule, then even without the double points you would still have won (because your final score would go down by at most 25 points, so you've still got more than anyone else).

Tony2or4

1,283 posts

165 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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tight fart said:
It would also be a shame if Marussia lose their place in the constructors title to the double points.
Though that'd be irrelevant if Marussia have bitten the dust.

thegreenhell

15,285 posts

219 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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tight fart said:
It would also be a shame if Marussia lose their place in the constructors title to the double points.
With Caterham missing the final races the lowest Marussia can finish is tenth, and then only if a Sauber finishes ninth or higher in the race. Otherwise they will hold on to their current ninth spot.

The difference in prize money between ninth and tenth is relatively small compared to the difference between tenth and eleventh. If Caterham somehow survive into 2015 they will get $0 from this season's efforts. If Marussia survive they will get $45-50m.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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Tony2or4 said:
The Moose said:
fomb said:
As long as the winner wins by more than 25 points I don't care about the rule wink
Expand as I struggle to understand why?!
I'm guessing Fomb's point is that if you win by more than 25 points with the double points rule, then even without the double points you would still have won (because your final score would go down by at most 25 points, so you've still got more than anyone else).
It's not as simple as that though. If Lewis goes into the final race with a 3 point lead (Nico wins in Austin and Brazil, and Lewis comes second in both), Lewis could win the championship in Abu Dhabi by winning the race and Nico coming 2nd. Lewis will win by 17 points. The double points has still had no effect on the title, but the lead is less than 25 points. Without double points, Lewis wins the title by 10 points. Same outcome.

Or they both DNF in the final race, and Lewis wins by 3 points.

There are so many scenarios where fomb's statement doesn't work!

Edited by RenOHH on Thursday 30th October 23:04

The Moose

22,845 posts

209 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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RenOHH said:
Tony2or4 said:
The Moose said:
fomb said:
As long as the winner wins by more than 25 points I don't care about the rule wink
Expand as I struggle to understand why?!
I'm guessing Fomb's point is that if you win by more than 25 points with the double points rule, then even without the double points you would still have won (because your final score would go down by at most 25 points, so you've still got more than anyone else).
It's not as simple as that though. If Lewis goes into the final race with a 3 point lead (Nico wins in Austin and Brazil, and Lewis comes second in both), Lewis could win the championship in Abu Dhabi by winning the race and Nico coming 2nd. Lewis will win by 17 points. The double points has still had no effect on the title, but the lead is less than 25 points. Without double points, Lewis wins the title by 10 points. Same outcome.

Or they both DNF in the final race, and Lewis wins by 3 points.

There are so many scenarios where fomb's statement doesn't work!

Edited by RenOHH on Thursday 30th October 23:04
That's where I was struggling!!

hairyben

8,516 posts

183 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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Ha, when asked about it in the press conference "...and it's good for the fans it'll be exciting until the end"

he really needs a copy of "how not to be a smug tt"

Some Gump

12,687 posts

186 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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My ideal scenario:
NExt round - Lewis DNF (maldonado), Rosberg wins.

1 point in it on the final round, first man home wins championship.

My least idea scenario:

Lewis wins next round, Rosberg has a bit of a mare. Enter last round with 48 or 49 point gap.
Last round, lewis DNF (mechanical), rosberg wins.

Scenario 2 would pretty much ruin an otherwise good season...

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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If that happened, it would be the cherry on top of the season where the chickens came home to roost, and the decline of the sport is really beginning to show.

2 teams are in administration.

Sauber have opened both seats to the highest bidder, and announced Nasr without telling SUT, GUT or their other two drivers.

The cars are more expensive to develop than ever.

Pretty much half the teams are choosing drivers based on their sponsorship money.

Meanwhile the people at the top are just getting richer. It's a bloody shambles frankly.

zac510

5,546 posts

206 months

Friday 7th November 2014
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hairyben said:
Ha, when asked about it in the press conference "...and it's good for the fans it'll be exciting until the end"

he really needs a copy of "how not to be a smug tt"
He's correct, for the unbiased fans it will be exciting. For the biased fans, it's a good bit of fan-trolling by Rosberg smile

Europa1

10,923 posts

188 months

Friday 7th November 2014
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What's the betting that if double points does have an impact, Formula 1 will, in its infinite wisdom, decide it was all jolly exciting and therefore a jolly good idea they should keep for next year.....