Rosberg loves the Double Points situ'

Rosberg loves the Double Points situ'

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LDN

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8,911 posts

203 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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Link: http://www.planetf1.com/news/3213/9539487/Rosberg-...

The jist is that, he says with a wry grin, he 'loves' the double points rule... I suppose he must given his standing but; surely this is journo's stirring the pot!? Why would he be so bold as to - in a round about kind of way - admit that his only chance at the WDC is perhaps the silly double points rule - that's so stupid that it's already been scrapped from next year forward (I believe).

If Rosberg wins via double points - there'll be a backlash and I'm not sure Mercedes will be as keen on that being the only talking point VS Lewis winning fair and square. This isn't a pro-Lewis post. I think that if anyone wins as a result of the points situ' - it'd be a joke. Of course, only Nico can.

FunkyNige

8,882 posts

275 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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There is a Mercedes promo video on Youtube from the start of the season with Lewis and Nico having a light hearted look at the new rules for the season ahead ("My car only has a 1.6 engine? My first car had a bigger engine" etc.), I'm fairly certain Nico mentions the double points system being rubbish in that! Yes I know it's probably scripted, but would be fitting if it turned out to be relevant at the end of the season...
I can't link as I'm at work, I think it's called "Lewis and Nico off the record" from about March this year on the Mercedes Youtube channel.

The Stiglet

2,062 posts

194 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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FunkyNige said:
There is a Mercedes promo video on Youtube from the start of the season with Lewis and Nico having a light hearted look at the new rules for the season ahead ("My car only has a 1.6 engine? My first car had a bigger engine" etc.), I'm fairly certain Nico mentions the double points system being rubbish in that! Yes I know it's probably scripted, but would be fitting if it turned out to be relevant at the end of the season...
I can't link as I'm at work, I think it's called "Lewis and Nico off the record" from about March this year on the Mercedes Youtube channel.
http://youtu.be/-P-9oYUwA_E


Edited by The Stiglet on Wednesday 29th October 10:34

998420

901 posts

151 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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If Rosberg unjustly won the WDC via a LH DNF it would be a travesty.... But not without precedent, that other cheat Schumacher being allowed to "win" a WDC by deliberately crashing into Damon in Adelaide springs to mind.

RenesisEvo

3,607 posts

219 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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998420 said:
If Rosberg unjustly won the WDC via a LH DNF it would be a travesty.... But not without precedent, that other cheat Schumacher being allowed to "win" a WDC by deliberately crashing into Damon in Adelaide springs to mind.
One is winning via mechanical failure and a quirk of the sporting rules - all out of the driver's hands. The second was a deliberate act by the driver. Not comparable IMO.

I agree that Rosberg winning in such a manner would do a lot of damage to the credibility of both his own WDC but also the sport as a whole. It would be absurd for a driver win twice as many races (currently 9 vs 4) as the next guy and still lose the championship.

oyster

12,594 posts

248 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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998420 said:
If Rosberg unjustly won the WDC via a LH DNF it would be a travesty.... But not without precedent, that other cheat Schumacher being allowed to "win" a WDC by deliberately crashing into Damon in Adelaide springs to mind.
Can you clarify the bit in bold? It doesn't make sense.

Unless you're saying by winning the WDC by way of double points is somehow cheating?

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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oyster said:
998420 said:
If Rosberg unjustly won the WDC via a LH DNF it would be a travesty.... But not without precedent, that other cheat Schumacher being allowed to "win" a WDC by deliberately crashing into Damon in Adelaide springs to mind.
Can you clarify the bit in bold? It doesn't make sense.

Unless you're saying by winning the WDC by way of double points is somehow cheating?
He seems to be saying that Rosberg and Schumacher are both cheats. He may well be correct but it seems unfair to pick them out of the pack of cheats, some of whom are still racing and one of the most famous of them seemingly supported by 998420.

Whatever, it matters not.


the other me

613 posts

153 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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I think he "may" have been referring to the Monaco "whoopsy" ?

Bradgate

2,823 posts

147 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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Being British, I hope Lewis wins the championship.

As a lifelong F1 fan, I hope the ridiculous double points rule doesn't decide the championship for either driver.

benjj

6,787 posts

163 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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I was thinking about a hypothetical situation last night: Rosberg comes into the last corner of the last race and is about to win the WDC based solely on the double points rule.

How could he salvage anything whatsoever from the situation?

All I could come up with is that he brakes to a full screaming stop an inch from the line and lets another car pass, thus giving the win to [x] under the old (rightful) rules.

Bernie would have an absolute fking fit and his power would be ultimately undermined. That would be cool.

Rosberg would become more of an F1 celeb that he could ever imagine. Wouldn't be surprising to see him win a WDC after that for real. That would be cool.

Assuming it is Hamilton who wins outright then Mercedes haven't lost anything. That would be cool.

Lots of cool stuff about my idea.

My CV is available to any front running F1 team as a strategist (and grid girl fondler).

VladD

7,855 posts

265 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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As I've said before, my hope is that Lewis ties it up in Brazil and the Abu Dhabi points become moot.

DanielSan

18,786 posts

167 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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If Hamilton has 2 DNF's and then wins in Abu Dhabi under the double points rule I wonder how many would say it's a travesty and how many would say it's a deserved championship. The rules are the same for everyone from race one to race twenty. This is what we've got this year so no matter who wins it's hardly a travesty.

angrymoby

2,613 posts

178 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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DanielSan said:
If Hamilton has 2 DNF's and then wins in Abu Dhabi under the double points rule I wonder how many would say it's a travesty and how many would say it's a deserved championship. The rules are the same for everyone from race one to race twenty. This is what we've got this year so no matter who wins it's hardly a travesty.
I'd have just as much issue with anyone winning the WDC when guy behind has potentially half the amount of 'wins' ...I'm all for rewarding consistency, but that's taking the pi$$ ...especially as some people still take issue that Lewis's WDC in 2008 was with just 5 wins compared to Massa's 6!

I bet whoever came up with the 'double point final' fiasco, didn't envisage the above scenario ...or probably more accurately 'care'



Edited by angrymoby on Wednesday 29th October 13:14

glazbagun

14,279 posts

197 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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benjj said:
I was thinking about a hypothetical situation last night: Rosberg comes into the last corner of the last race and is about to win the WDC based solely on the double points rule.

How could he salvage anything whatsoever from the situation?

All I could come up with is that he brakes to a full screaming stop an inch from the line and lets another car pass, thus giving the win to [x] under the old (rightful) rules.

Bernie would have an absolute fking fit and his power would be ultimately undermined. That would be cool.

Rosberg would become more of an F1 celeb that he could ever imagine. Wouldn't be surprising to see him win a WDC after that for real. That would be cool.

Assuming it is Hamilton who wins outright then Mercedes haven't lost anything. That would be cool.

Lot stuff about my idea.

My CV is available to any front running F1 team as a strategist (and grid girl fondler).
I thought of that too, would be an Amazing fk You to Bernie, and be a great antidote to Barrichello being ordered by the team to give up his win to Schumi.

That said I can see it having negative consequences too, and Rosberg strikes me as a bit too pragmatic to go for being the hero.

G0ldfysh

3,304 posts

257 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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glazbagun said:
benjj said:
I was thinking about a hypothetical situation last night: Rosberg comes into the last corner of the last race and is about to win the WDC based solely on the double points rule.

How could he salvage anything whatsoever from the situation?

All I could come up with is that he brakes to a full screaming stop an inch from the line and lets another car pass, thus giving the win to [x] under the old (rightful) rules.

Bernie would have an absolute fking fit and his power would be ultimately undermined. That would be cool.

Rosberg would become more of an F1 celeb that he could ever imagine. Wouldn't be surprising to see him win a WDC after that for real. That would be cool.

Assuming it is Hamilton who wins outright then Mercedes haven't lost anything. That would be cool.

Lot stuff about my idea.

My CV is available to any front running F1 team as a strategist (and grid girl fondler).
I thought of that too, would be an Amazing fk You to Bernie, and be a great antidote to Barrichello being ordered by the team to give up his win to Schumi.

That said I can see it having negative consequences too, and Rosberg strikes me as a bit too pragmatic to go for being the hero.
I like this idea given the financial benefit of winning a championship, i wonder if the sponsorship deals of being a true sportsman would earn the same.?

Sir Bagalot

6,478 posts

181 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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We've seen a change in LH's mentality since Spa. Wouldn't surprise me that if he has enough points advantage he will simply stay 2 seconds behind Nico all the way to take the WDC

The Moose

22,845 posts

209 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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G0ldfysh said:
i wonder if the sponsorship deals of being a true sportsman would earn the same.?
rofl pull the other one!!

zac510

5,546 posts

206 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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benjj said:
I was thinking about a hypothetical situation last night: Rosberg comes into the last corner of the last race and is about to win the WDC based solely on the double points rule.

How could he salvage anything whatsoever from the situation?

All I could come up with is that he brakes to a full screaming stop an inch from the line and lets another car pass, thus giving the win to [x] under the old (rightful) rules.

Bernie would have an absolute fking fit and his power would be ultimately undermined. That would be cool.

Rosberg would become more of an F1 celeb that he could ever imagine. Wouldn't be surprising to see him win a WDC after that for real. That would be cool.

Assuming it is Hamilton who wins outright then Mercedes haven't lost anything. That would be cool.

Lots of cool stuff about my idea.

My CV is available to any front running F1 team as a strategist (and grid girl fondler).
Bernie wouldn't give a flying fk.

Haven't you noticed in decades of interviews that he never gets angry about anything? He's always calm, gives himself time to think before stating his opinion (usually controversial), never raising his voice.

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

152 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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FunkyNige said:
Yes I know it's probably scripted,
PROBABLY?!?!

Europa1

10,923 posts

188 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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angrymoby said:
DanielSan said:
If Hamilton has 2 DNF's and then wins in Abu Dhabi under the double points rule I wonder how many would say it's a travesty and how many would say it's a deserved championship. The rules are the same for everyone from race one to race twenty. This is what we've got this year so no matter who wins it's hardly a travesty.
I'd have just as much issue with anyone winning the WDC when guy behind has potentially half the amount of 'wins' ...I'm all for rewarding consistency, but that's taking the pi$$ ...especially as some people still take issue that Lewis's WDC in 2008 was with just 5 wins compared to Massa's 6!

I bet whoever came up with the 'double point final' fiasco, didn't envisage the above scenario ...or probably more accurately 'care'

The person/people who came up with the idea (which required the approval of all the teams, if I recall correctly) were concerned with stopping Vettel/Newey walking away with another world championship, before it was realised the Renault 2014 power unit was gash and Vettel was heavily reliant on blown diffusers for cornering speed - they didn't want a return to the Schumacher/Ferrari hegemony of titles sewn up mid-season and TV viewers (and therefore sponsors) losing interest. A noble idea, but the chosen means of execution was clumsy, to say the least.

Whichever of Hamilton or Rosberg wins it, it is a shame that as much time (and non-enthusiast perception) will be focussed on mathematics/artificial constructs as on the skills and merits of the 2 main protagonsists in a season that has actually seem some great racing up and down the field.



Edited by angrymoby on Wednesday 29th October 13:14