Where next for Max Chilton?
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entropy said:
DanielSan said:
He did beat the Caterhams this year to be fair...
When both Marussias finished who was usually ahead to sandwich a Caterham? It was usually Jules.JonRB said:
Much as I dislike Max 'The Wallet' Chilton...
Why exactly do you 'dislike' him? From this sentence I suspect it is mostly jealousy? Or have you spoken to him? What insight can you offer that the rest of us are clearly missing? Mark-C said:
I think Jules was (and it's sad to use that word) a genuine star in the making, comparable to Webber/Alonso at Minardi. Clearly Max wasn't that but I think he would definitely have scored points at a better team. I think I'd rate him somewhere around Di Resta in driving ability- solid, dependable but nothing special.
Indeed, although I'd say PDR has nothing on Chilton in the 'reliability / consistency' stakes. BritishRacinGrin said:
Why exactly do you 'dislike' him? From this sentence I suspect it is mostly jealousy?
Jealousy? Not at all.BritishRacinGrin said:
What insight can you offer that the rest of us are clearly missing?
"The rest of us"? I wasn't aware that you were a spokesperson for absolutely every other poster on PH apart from me. But that is true of every driver - either through a) the team's own financial position, or b) support from sponsors, or c) family money.
Max grabbed his opportunity and his driving style and results were exactly what Marussia needed to (perhaps) remain in F1 for as long as they did. His safe pair of hands, and relatively low overheads, arguably allowed the team to express their true potential through a more talented 2nd driver, which is what Bianchi did.
Hopefully all at Marussia will move on to successful careers elsewhere.
Max grabbed his opportunity and his driving style and results were exactly what Marussia needed to (perhaps) remain in F1 for as long as they did. His safe pair of hands, and relatively low overheads, arguably allowed the team to express their true potential through a more talented 2nd driver, which is what Bianchi did.
Hopefully all at Marussia will move on to successful careers elsewhere.
No one gets into the higher end of motor racing without seriuos money, either through sponsorship (Hamilton's backing from McLaren for example) or family wealth. Even at the junior levels it takes significatn resource to stay in and make a name for yourself in order to get a paid drive in a higher series does it not?
So where the wealth comes from is irrelevant, I doubt Max was the only driver to pay for his drive was he?
I like him, he always came across as a decent enough bloke, I expect he has sufficient talent to get a paid drive in a lower series. If he's that good at managing the car, an endurance team would do well to pay him I'd have thought.
So where the wealth comes from is irrelevant, I doubt Max was the only driver to pay for his drive was he?
I like him, he always came across as a decent enough bloke, I expect he has sufficient talent to get a paid drive in a lower series. If he's that good at managing the car, an endurance team would do well to pay him I'd have thought.
AshVX220 said:
If he's that good at managing the car, an endurance team would do well to pay him I'd have thought.
Absolutely. As indeed I said a few posts ago; I think he'd really shine there. I'm not sure F1 really gave him that opportunity to. Although bringing it home race after race and setting a record for most number of consecutive finishes was an accomplishment to be proud of, without a doubt. Agent Orange said:
RichB said:
don't look at sniffpetrol. I gave up on it several years ago as in my opinion it had run it's course.
I feel the same way about PH but seem unable to let go... 
I'll be honest & admit then when it was announced he had got the Marussia drive I thought that here was another spoilt brat who will be s
t & who will simply get at every in everyone else's way all the time.
Proved me wrong.
Granted he didn't score any points however he kept his head down, didn't get in anyone's way (at least I don't think he did), didn't spend all weekend moaning that the car was st, the team were st, everyone else was st. He simply got one with the job.
I don't think he has done his reputation any harm, particularly the way he handled the aftermath of Jules' dreadful accident, & I think that the constant slagging off is unwarranted.
He usually brought the car to the finish & still appeared happy with what he had done.
Compare his accident rate to that of one Pastor Maldonado......
Would be good to see Max in the Lotus to see exactly what he can do.
I think he would surprise a few people.
t & who will simply get at every in everyone else's way all the time.Proved me wrong.
Granted he didn't score any points however he kept his head down, didn't get in anyone's way (at least I don't think he did), didn't spend all weekend moaning that the car was s
t, the team were st, everyone else was st. He simply got one with the job.I don't think he has done his reputation any harm, particularly the way he handled the aftermath of Jules' dreadful accident, & I think that the constant slagging off is unwarranted.
He usually brought the car to the finish & still appeared happy with what he had done.
Compare his accident rate to that of one Pastor Maldonado......
Would be good to see Max in the Lotus to see exactly what he can do.
I think he would surprise a few people.
fatboy69 said:
I'll be honest & admit then when it was announced he had got the Marussia drive I thought that here was another spoilt brat who will be st & who will simply get at every in everyone else's way all the time.
Proved me wrong.
Granted he didn't score any points however he kept his head down, didn't get in anyone's way (at least I don't think he did), didn't spend all weekend moaning that the car was st, the team were st, everyone else was st. He simply got one with the job.
I don't think he has done his reputation any harm, particularly the way he handled the aftermath of Jules' dreadful accident, & I think that the constant slagging off is unwarranted.
He usually brought the car to the finish & still appeared happy with what he had done.
Compare his accident rate to that of one Pastor Maldonado......
I have to admit, the positivity in this thread has swayed me. I'm the kind of person who is willing to adjust an opinion based on well-reasoned argument, so perhaps I've been unfairly harsh on the chap. t & who will simply get at every in everyone else's way all the time.Proved me wrong.
Granted he didn't score any points however he kept his head down, didn't get in anyone's way (at least I don't think he did), didn't spend all weekend moaning that the car was s
t, the team were st, everyone else was st. He simply got one with the job.I don't think he has done his reputation any harm, particularly the way he handled the aftermath of Jules' dreadful accident, & I think that the constant slagging off is unwarranted.
He usually brought the car to the finish & still appeared happy with what he had done.
Compare his accident rate to that of one Pastor Maldonado......
I think that my main gripe has always been that I felt Max bought his way in at the expense of more talented and exciting racers like Paul Di Resta. But that has often been the case in F1 of late and isn't really Max's fault and I shouldn't hold it against him. He's been somewhat uninspiring at the back of the field but, as you say, has always brought it home.
I do firmly believe that this is more appropriate for Endurance Racing though.
Edited by JonRB on Thursday 13th November 18:50
Exciting, paul di resta, exciting?
Such a dull driver that spent his whole final season slagging off his team. Yes he might have a bit more raw speed, but nothing special like Alonso, Hamilton etc.
I think Chilton knew all along that he was never good enough to be world champion, but he did a thoroughly professional job at what he was employed to do, bring the car home and try and beat the caterhams.
Although i think the only time he did bin it he also took out his team mate. oops.
Such a dull driver that spent his whole final season slagging off his team. Yes he might have a bit more raw speed, but nothing special like Alonso, Hamilton etc.
I think Chilton knew all along that he was never good enough to be world champion, but he did a thoroughly professional job at what he was employed to do, bring the car home and try and beat the caterhams.
Although i think the only time he did bin it he also took out his team mate. oops.
JonRB said:
BritishRacinGrin said:
Why exactly do you 'dislike' him? From this sentence I suspect it is mostly jealousy?
Jealousy? Not at all.BritishRacinGrin said:
What insight can you offer that the rest of us are clearly missing?
"The rest of us"? I wasn't aware that you were a spokesperson for absolutely every other poster on PH apart from me. mattshiz said:
Exciting, paul di resta, exciting?
Ok, perhaps a poor choice of example then. My point was that Max didn't exactly set F1 alight but that he would make an excellent Endurance driver. Anyway, this is all getting a little tedious now - especially BritishRacinGrin's aggressive yet doe-eyed fandom - so I'll leave you guys to your love-in.
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