**** Abu Dhabi Grand Prix **** (contains spoilers)

**** Abu Dhabi Grand Prix **** (contains spoilers)

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NewMetalSystem

351 posts

179 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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Digitalize said:
Likelyhood that Lewis would have congratulated Nico if he was champion? Probably less than zero.
You're right, he looked pretty sore to miss out in 2010...





Okay, so not an entirely similar scenario, given that there were 4 drivers who could win it. But he went in to that race only 9 points behind Seb. You could say that he didn't expect to win the title, but you could equally say the same for Nico today. For Lewis to lose would have taken a lot of bad luck. Even though Nico did have bad luck, he would have known in his mind that it was likely going to be Lewis' day. So psychologically defeat would have been very different for both of them.

That said, big respect to Nico - both for continuing on to the flag, and for congratulating Lewis so soon after.

ZX10R NIN

27,604 posts

125 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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johnfm said:
How the fk would you know?
Just by the behavior I have seen them both display over this season, do you think he would have done?

The Moose

22,847 posts

209 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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mollytherocker said:
Kaiser_Wull said:
I suspect that Mercedes will want #1 to adorn Lewis's car next season.
Lewis wants 44. What Lewis wants Lewis gets....
One would imagine it's because he has 44 tattooed behind his ear...

darreni

3,789 posts

270 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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I thought that Lewis was pretty humble in victory today & Nico gracious in defeat.
Class from both & great respect shown to each other.


RichB

51,572 posts

284 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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cheddar said:
12 laps to go Massa had a 12 second lead, Lewis was closing but not by much and the soft tyres had very low degradation this weekend.

Looking at their lap times I thought Massa had the race in the bag but then the team decide to pit him in for s/softs. Bad team call?
No, he had to use two compounds.

Matt_N

8,902 posts

202 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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ZX10R NIN said:
Just by the behavior I have seen them both display over this season, do you think he would have done?
Come on they were both gracious today, Nico in so by going into the top 3 room to congratulate Lewis and Lewis in his post podium speech with Brundle.

andygo

6,804 posts

255 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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Slightly O/T.

I don't get tattoos at all, but whats the point of having one behind your lug hole? Not like you can look at yourself in a mirror and go, 'Oooh, how lovely, a nice artistic number 44 that looks like a 5 year old has drawn it'.

Back on thread now.

Well done Lewis, top year for you and the team. I heard from commentary that your reaction time from lights going out to car moving was 2/10ths. Thats pretty awesome, as the car itself has to react to input.

Try this. (We could have a PH thread on this, similar to the broadband speed thread..)

http://www.humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime
I was super impressed by Rosberg post race, went some way to repairing some of his allegedly dodgy antics through the season.

I think next year will be epic between them as they will NOT be sitting on their laurels.





deeen

6,080 posts

245 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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darreni said:
I thought that Lewis was pretty humble in victory today & Nico gracious in defeat.
Class from both & great respect shown to each other.
Agreed, especially if you think of behavior in other front-line "sports"!

Hungrymc

6,663 posts

137 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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darreni said:
I thought that Lewis was pretty humble in victory today & Nico gracious in defeat.
Class from both & great respect shown to each other.
Totally agree.

I think with the exception of some ill chosen words earlier in the year when Lewis spoke about 'breaking Nico mentally' he has conducted himself very maturely and very well. We've had quite a bit of sniping from Nico (the press conference for this event being one example) but I think Nico has been under intense pressure, more so than many people seem to realise. Several times this year it's looked like the championship was his only for Leiws to keep pulling it back. That has to be very hard to take (as has the number of wins). At the back of his mind will have been the thought that this could be his best chance to ever win the championship so you can understand his conduct slipping a little with all that frustration and pressure.

But credit to both men today, Nico for his conduct after the race, and Lewis for taking a very well deserved championship.

emicen

8,585 posts

218 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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Just putting it out there, Nico's wanting to finish was nothing to do with sportsmanship, it was in the feint hope Hamilton retired and half a dozen cars got flicked for wing deflection or similar.

Just a thought.

hairyben

8,516 posts

183 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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Matt_N said:
ZX10R NIN said:
Just by the behavior I have seen them both display over this season, do you think he would have done?
Come on they were both gracious today, Nico in so by going into the top 3 room to congratulate Lewis and Lewis in his post podium speech with Brundle.
ha, re-watch the part where lewis pulls his car up in the no1 podium spot in scrutineering, as he's undoing himself to get out nico jogs right past without so much as a wave, i expect anything that came later was by order of mr.toto.

cheddar

4,637 posts

174 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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RichB said:
cheddar said:
12 laps to go Massa had a 12 second lead, Lewis was closing but not by much and the soft tyres had very low degradation this weekend.

Looking at their lap times I thought Massa had the race in the bag but then the team decide to pit him in for s/softs. Bad team call?
No, he had to use two compounds.
He'd already used both compounds.

darreni

3,789 posts

270 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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Hungrymc said:
Totally agree.

I think with the exception of some ill chosen words earlier in the year when Lewis spoke about 'breaking Nico mentally' he has conducted himself very maturely and very well. We've had quite a bit of sniping from Nico (the press conference for this event being one example) but I think Nico has been under intense pressure, more so than many people seem to realise. Several times this year it's looked like the championship was his only for Leiws to keep pulling it back. That has to be very hard to take (as has the number of wins). At the back of his mind will have been the thought that this could be his best chance to ever win the championship so you can understand his conduct slipping a little with all that frustration and pressure.

But credit to both men today, Nico for his conduct after the race, and Lewis for taking a very well deserved championship.
Its not unlike a lot of sports - a bit of banter here & there & immense pressure.

Be great if they are able to share a beer or two now the pressure is off both.

EskimoArapaho

5,135 posts

135 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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Hungrymc said:
But credit to both men today, Nico for his conduct after the race, and Lewis for taking a very well deserved championship.
Agreed. It's interesting to contrast the conduct of both racers today with those of their respective supporters here. Nico Rosberg is certainly more of a gentleman than some of his fans on PH.

MiniMan64

16,926 posts

190 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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hairyben said:
Matt_N said:
ZX10R NIN said:
Just by the behavior I have seen them both display over this season, do you think he would have done?
Come on they were both gracious today, Nico in so by going into the top 3 room to congratulate Lewis and Lewis in his post podium speech with Brundle.
ha, re-watch the part where lewis pulls his car up in the no1 podium spot in scrutineering, as he's undoing himself to get out nico jogs right past without so much as a wave, i expect anything that came later was by order of mr.toto.
The BBC mentioned that Nico had already been in the radio to Hamilton to congratulate him, don't know how credible that is though.

hairyben

8,516 posts

183 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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JonRB said:
Ah, ok. So the option is reserved rather than it being mandated?

In that case perhaps it is down to Merc then. I think Toto, Paddy and Niki will be sympathetic to the request in that case. Whether or not they are overruled by the Marketing Department remains to be seen. smile
Don't the motogp boys carry both numbers in the livery?

surely there's scope, eg 44 on the bonnet (and race under 44) with a stylised/layered no1 on the side of the nose?

miniman

24,954 posts

262 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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Highlight of the day was, of course, 2 Williams on the podium. Wouldn't have said at the beginning of the season that I'd be hoping for Lewis to win it, but glad he did in the end.

RichB

51,572 posts

284 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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cheddar said:
RichB said:
cheddar said:
12 laps to go Massa had a 12 second lead, Lewis was closing but not by much and the soft tyres had very low degradation this weekend.

Looking at their lap times I thought Massa had the race in the bag but then the team decide to pit him in for s/softs. Bad team call?
No, he had to use two compounds.
He'd already used both compounds.
ok

DanielSan

18,793 posts

167 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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Girl I know has just done this.

Hungrymc

6,663 posts

137 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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I was a little worried for Lewis before Massa pitted, but I think in the laps leading up to Massa's stop Lewis had started taking lots of time out of him (15 secs to 12 secs in a couple of laps). And Lewis kept going quicker afterwards on those tyres (his fastest lap was 48 or 49). So I guess Williams ran the numbers and with Massa's long stint on those tyres knew that his lap times were dropping off and Lewis was going to catch and pass without a stop?