first pic of McLaren Honda
Discussion
upsidedownmark said:
Flippin heck.. it's a racing car, not a handbag!
So long as it goes fast who gives a ***t what colour it is? (or if someone already wore that dress to last year's party
)
Let's be honest here...the odds of it going quick are pretty slim, so what it looked like was pretty much all it had going for it this year So long as it goes fast who gives a ***t what colour it is? (or if someone already wore that dress to last year's party
)
Silverbullet767 said:
What's stopping them from doing a red and white livery? Absolutely f
k all. It's what the fans want. So why not just do it?
That attempt there is complete horsest. Like someone took a red pen and just drew a line on last years and said, pub? Yeah pub, that'll do.
What's stopping them? er - that livery belonged to a tobacco sponsor that still sponsors a rival company (how they get away with it is beyond me!) and wasn't exclusive to McLaren anyway, even in F1 - I'm sure I remember Alfa Romeo's with Marlboro red and white - at the same time McLaren was red/white.k all. It's what the fans want. So why not just do it?That attempt there is complete horses
t. Like someone took a red pen and just drew a line on last years and said, pub? Yeah pub, that'll do.Also - it might be what some fans want - but not all - I think it's a damn fine thing that F1 cars don't look like cigarette packets any more. Yes some could do with thinking it though more to avoid looking like an accident in a paint factory but some have to with their multiple sponsors, none of whom are a 'title' sponsor who then dictates the overall livery.
What ultimately matters more (or should do) is how it goes - and assuming they don't have to change things after testing, the back end looks like they have got a compact package which could bode well with respect to speed - reliability might be another issue being a year behind the others, but they all managed to be surprisingly reliable come the races in 14.
llewop said:
Silverbullet767 said:
What's stopping them from doing a red and white livery? Absolutely fk all. It's what the fans want. So why not just do it?
That attempt there is complete horsest. Like someone took a red pen and just drew a line on last years and said, pub? Yeah pub, that'll do.
What's stopping them? er - that livery belonged to a tobacco sponsor that still sponsors a rival company (how they get away with it is beyond me!) and wasn't exclusive to McLaren anyway, even in F1 - I'm sure I remember Alfa Romeo's with Marlboro red and white - at the same time McLaren was red/white.k all. It's what the fans want. So why not just do it?That attempt there is complete horses
t. Like someone took a red pen and just drew a line on last years and said, pub? Yeah pub, that'll do.Also - it might be what some fans want - but not all - I think it's a damn fine thing that F1 cars don't look like cigarette packets any more. Yes some could do with thinking it though more to avoid looking like an accident in a paint factory but some have to with their multiple sponsors, none of whom are a 'title' sponsor who then dictates the overall livery.
What ultimately matters more (or should do) is how it goes - and assuming they don't have to change things after testing, the back end looks like they have got a compact package which could bode well with respect to speed - reliability might be another issue being a year behind the others, but they all managed to be surprisingly reliable come the races in 14.
llewop said:
What's stopping them? er - that livery belonged to a tobacco sponsor that still sponsors a rival company (how they get away with it is beyond me!) and wasn't exclusive to McLaren anyway, even in F1 - I'm sure I remember Alfa Romeo's with Marlboro red and white - at the same time McLaren was red/white.
Also - it might be what some fans want - but not all - I think it's a damn fine thing that F1 cars don't look like cigarette packets any more. Yes some could do with thinking it though more to avoid looking like an accident in a paint factory but some have to with their multiple sponsors, none of whom are a 'title' sponsor who then dictates the overall livery.
What ultimately matters more (or should do) is how it goes - and assuming they don't have to change things after testing, the back end looks like they have got a compact package which could bode well with respect to speed - reliability might be another issue being a year behind the others, but they all managed to be surprisingly reliable come the races in 14.
Agreed. They could paint it any colour they want so long as the engine is a good one matched to a good car. Fingers crossed!Also - it might be what some fans want - but not all - I think it's a damn fine thing that F1 cars don't look like cigarette packets any more. Yes some could do with thinking it though more to avoid looking like an accident in a paint factory but some have to with their multiple sponsors, none of whom are a 'title' sponsor who then dictates the overall livery.
What ultimately matters more (or should do) is how it goes - and assuming they don't have to change things after testing, the back end looks like they have got a compact package which could bode well with respect to speed - reliability might be another issue being a year behind the others, but they all managed to be surprisingly reliable come the races in 14.
spats said:
llewop said:
What's stopping them? er - that livery belonged to a tobacco sponsor that still sponsors a rival company (how they get away with it is beyond me!) and wasn't exclusive to McLaren anyway, even in F1 - I'm sure I remember Alfa Romeo's with Marlboro red and white - at the same time McLaren was red/white.
Also - it might be what some fans want - but not all - I think it's a damn fine thing that F1 cars don't look like cigarette packets any more. Yes some could do with thinking it though more to avoid looking like an accident in a paint factory but some have to with their multiple sponsors, none of whom are a 'title' sponsor who then dictates the overall livery.
What ultimately matters more (or should do) is how it goes - and assuming they don't have to change things after testing, the back end looks like they have got a compact package which could bode well with respect to speed - reliability might be another issue being a year behind the others, but they all managed to be surprisingly reliable come the races in 14.
Agreed. They could paint it any colour they want so long as the engine is a good one matched to a good car. Fingers crossed!Also - it might be what some fans want - but not all - I think it's a damn fine thing that F1 cars don't look like cigarette packets any more. Yes some could do with thinking it though more to avoid looking like an accident in a paint factory but some have to with their multiple sponsors, none of whom are a 'title' sponsor who then dictates the overall livery.
What ultimately matters more (or should do) is how it goes - and assuming they don't have to change things after testing, the back end looks like they have got a compact package which could bode well with respect to speed - reliability might be another issue being a year behind the others, but they all managed to be surprisingly reliable come the races in 14.
London424 said:
Bradgate said:
What a completely dull, boring, disappointing livery. Last year's car was far too dark and looked crap on TV and this one won't look any better.
The basic shape of the car looks good, however. Mr Prodromou has clearly been earning his very large salary. The difference in rear packaging from the start of last season to now is vast. The teams have clearly got on top of the cooling requirements of the new power trains in a big way, so shrink-wrapped bodywork is back. Now they just need to sort out the noise...
People are talking about the rear end shape but they haven't actually driven it yet. The basic shape of the car looks good, however. Mr Prodromou has clearly been earning his very large salary. The difference in rear packaging from the start of last season to now is vast. The teams have clearly got on top of the cooling requirements of the new power trains in a big way, so shrink-wrapped bodywork is back. Now they just need to sort out the noise...
Who knows if they'll be doing a Redbull having to cut holes in the bodywork just to get it to do a few laps.
llewop said:
Silverbullet767 said:
What's stopping them from doing a red and white livery? Absolutely fk all. It's what the fans want. So why not just do it?
That attempt there is complete horsest. Like someone took a red pen and just drew a line on last years and said, pub? Yeah pub, that'll do.
What's stopping them? er - that livery belonged to a tobacco sponsor that still sponsors a rival company (how they get away with it is beyond me!) and wasn't exclusive to McLaren anyway, even in F1 - I'm sure I remember Alfa Romeo's with Marlboro red and white - at the same time McLaren was red/white.k all. It's what the fans want. So why not just do it?That attempt there is complete horses
t. Like someone took a red pen and just drew a line on last years and said, pub? Yeah pub, that'll do.Also - it might be what some fans want - but not all - I think it's a damn fine thing that F1 cars don't look like cigarette packets any more. Yes some could do with thinking it though more to avoid looking like an accident in a paint factory but some have to with their multiple sponsors, none of whom are a 'title' sponsor who then dictates the overall livery.
What ultimately matters more (or should do) is how it goes - and assuming they don't have to change things after testing, the back end looks like they have got a compact package which could bode well with respect to speed - reliability might be another issue being a year behind the others, but they all managed to be surprisingly reliable come the races in 14.
Of course they don't, it's just a bulls
t excuse for bringing out a very lazy, unimaginative, boring design.Honda have reportedly pumped in hundreds of millions of dollars into their F1 return. Linking it all nicely with the new V6 turbo NSX.....and they get a black HONDA logo that is barely visible on a silver car! Yes brilliant marketing!
celicawrc said:
llewop said:
Silverbullet767 said:
What's stopping them from doing a red and white livery? Absolutely fk all. It's what the fans want. So why not just do it?
That attempt there is complete horsest. Like someone took a red pen and just drew a line on last years and said, pub? Yeah pub, that'll do.
What's stopping them? er - that livery belonged to a tobacco sponsor that still sponsors a rival company (how they get away with it is beyond me!) and wasn't exclusive to McLaren anyway, even in F1 - I'm sure I remember Alfa Romeo's with Marlboro red and white - at the same time McLaren was red/white.k all. It's what the fans want. So why not just do it?That attempt there is complete horses
t. Like someone took a red pen and just drew a line on last years and said, pub? Yeah pub, that'll do.Also - it might be what some fans want - but not all - I think it's a damn fine thing that F1 cars don't look like cigarette packets any more. Yes some could do with thinking it though more to avoid looking like an accident in a paint factory but some have to with their multiple sponsors, none of whom are a 'title' sponsor who then dictates the overall livery.
What ultimately matters more (or should do) is how it goes - and assuming they don't have to change things after testing, the back end looks like they have got a compact package which could bode well with respect to speed - reliability might be another issue being a year behind the others, but they all managed to be surprisingly reliable come the races in 14.
Of course they don't, it's just a bulls
t excuse for bringing out a very lazy, unimaginative, boring design.Honda have reportedly pumped in hundreds of millions of dollars into their F1 return. Linking it all nicely with the new V6 turbo NSX.....and they get a black HONDA logo that is barely visible on a silver car! Yes brilliant marketing!
In many respects I really couldn't give a stuff about the paintwork as long as I can tell the difference between them when watching - what is more important is how it goes - that is what will repay (or not...) Honda's millions!
I've calmed down now.
Those of you going on about how the red and white will never come back because Marlboro are no longer sponsors, what about West?
This is 1997, the first year after the Marlboro colours went. The colour scheme has been basically the same since then- eighteen years. It could equally be argued that Maclaren are continuing to advertise West.
Not just West either- but the Mercedes 'silver' arrows, their former engine supplier who they have so publically cut ties with, and have made such a big song and dance over their 'new era' with Honda again, with whom they famously built the hugely successful partnership so strongly associated with the white/red paint job.
Not just Mercedes, but Mercedes' title sponsor Petronas (silver). Maclaren also have an oil company as a major sponsor- Mobil. Mobil, whose corporate identity strongly features white and red (and blue).
That's before we consider the Japanese flag.
If Maclaren arrive at Melborne with this colour scheme I'll consider it a huge opportunity missed to celebrate this renewed historic British / Japanese partnership (red, white, blue bits?) while giving Honda and Mobil greater value from their sponsorship, emphasising their seperation from Mercedes and indirectly Petronas and making a lot of people very happy, selling a boatload of merchandise and attracting renewed goodwill and interest towards the Maclaren company, whose corporate identity and visability is all the more important with their successful and expanding sports / supercar company.
Alternatively, Papaya orange to mark 45 years since Bruce?
ETA: Just to re-enforce, I think there is a possability that Maclaren have grown a sense of humour recently and that they're just teasing. I hope it's completely different when they get to Melborne.
Those of you going on about how the red and white will never come back because Marlboro are no longer sponsors, what about West?
This is 1997, the first year after the Marlboro colours went. The colour scheme has been basically the same since then- eighteen years. It could equally be argued that Maclaren are continuing to advertise West.
Not just West either- but the Mercedes 'silver' arrows, their former engine supplier who they have so publically cut ties with, and have made such a big song and dance over their 'new era' with Honda again, with whom they famously built the hugely successful partnership so strongly associated with the white/red paint job.
Not just Mercedes, but Mercedes' title sponsor Petronas (silver). Maclaren also have an oil company as a major sponsor- Mobil. Mobil, whose corporate identity strongly features white and red (and blue).
That's before we consider the Japanese flag.
If Maclaren arrive at Melborne with this colour scheme I'll consider it a huge opportunity missed to celebrate this renewed historic British / Japanese partnership (red, white, blue bits?) while giving Honda and Mobil greater value from their sponsorship, emphasising their seperation from Mercedes and indirectly Petronas and making a lot of people very happy, selling a boatload of merchandise and attracting renewed goodwill and interest towards the Maclaren company, whose corporate identity and visability is all the more important with their successful and expanding sports / supercar company.
Alternatively, Papaya orange to mark 45 years since Bruce?
ETA: Just to re-enforce, I think there is a possability that Maclaren have grown a sense of humour recently and that they're just teasing. I hope it's completely different when they get to Melborne.
Edited by BritishRacinGrin on Saturday 31st January 00:23
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