Rosberg. whats gonna be his strategy

Rosberg. whats gonna be his strategy

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Abe007

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26 posts

113 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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So, Assuming Nico gets pole and leads the race on Sunday, what is his strategy from here, does he try and back Lewis up and hope other drivers get in the mix potentially causing an accident. Does he just drive off and hope Lewis has reliability issues.

I think he has got to try something, even so, given they will probably finish 1-2 Its Hamilton's, or ?

NewMetalSystem

351 posts

179 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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It's out of his hands, really. I don't think backing Lewis up would work, he'd have to push 100% on every lap just to stay ahead.

I can imagine Nico being defensively robust - squeezing Lewis, pushing him wide, etc. But Abu Dhabi isn't really a track where that would punish him.

hairyben

8,516 posts

183 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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rosberg will brake erratically/early into T1 to try to force a panic brake from lewis that gets him rear ended by a following car. Lewis will dodge it and sail past, only for rosberg to lose his rag and shunt lewis, forgetting that the double DNF makes lewis champ. He then complains to the fia that lewis caused an accident and should be disqualified from the championship. Lauda then pulls down rosbergs race suit, puts him over his knee and publically spanks him, he cries. max mosely voices his approval.

cayman-black

12,641 posts

216 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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hairyben said:
rosberg will brake erratically/early into T1 to try to force a panic brake from lewis that gets him rear ended by a following car. Lewis will dodge it and sail past, only for rosberg to lose his rag and shunt lewis, forgetting that the double DNF makes lewis champ. He then complains to the fia that lewis caused an accident and should be disqualified from the championship. Lauda then pulls down rosbergs race suit, puts him over his knee and publically spanks him, he cries. max mosely voices his approval.
rofl

Walford

2,259 posts

166 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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Derek Smith

45,612 posts

248 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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Abe007 said:
So, Assuming Nico gets pole and leads the race on Sunday, what is his strategy from here, does he try and back Lewis up and hope other drivers get in the mix potentially causing an accident. Does he just drive off and hope Lewis has reliability issues.

I think he has got to try something, even so, given they will probably finish 1-2 Its Hamilton's, or ?
I had the conversation after the last race.

The general consensus was that he has got to be quick off the line as LH is pretty nifty in the early stages. So that means a gap opening up between the Mercs and the rest of the field fairly early on. Not much we thought, but that was when we expected Williams to be fast here. So maybe a bit off there.

The question was whether NR can allow LH to close up with the DRS being a significant advantage at the circuit.

The option pushed by one bloke was that NR will push LH off during an overtake, but there were objections to that. If NR goes for the inside and with the intent to run wide then he will have to brake later than LH, but off line, and that's not NR's strength. If he goes on the outside and LH gets to the corner first then he'll be past.

Even if NR did manage to counter the attempts at DRS overtakes then all that happens is that he's kept him back in to the WDC position.

More to the point I think, no criticism of your post, is LH's tactics.

If he goes for second then it will be second unless an overtake presents itself. Regardless of his supposedly more mature approach, he is unable to resist an overtake if it presents itself.

I reckon he might allow NR his lead until the second tyre change. He'll go for an overtake whilst NR is in the pits. This circuit allows cars to push at most spots without danger.

NR will, I think, have to go for something like tyre husbandry, hoping that LH will be kept on on worn rubber. However, if I was LH, I go for a change in tyre strategy. Perhaps a three-stopper, going out on the final stage on new super softs. That way the only time they'd be on the same bit of circuit would be on the first few laps and the last few.

I can't see this being an exciting race if LH keeps a sensible approach.

So the possibility of some excitement.


RichB

51,520 posts

284 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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Abe007 said:
..I think he has got to try something, even so, given they will probably finish 1-2 Its Hamilton's, or ?
Or what?

team underdog

938 posts

229 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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Win the race and hope Hamilton has problems. Anything else is futile.

Jasandjules

69,867 posts

229 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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His only hope is that Lewis has a DNF.

So far Lewis has been softer on his tyres in the long runs as well, so Lewis will be able to keep at Nico's pace whilst still not running out of tyre first.

Lewis also has the fastest pace (only just mind but who knows if either has a little extra to play with).

The Mercs are over 1.5secs a lap faster than the rest I think. So that means to try to back Lewis into the pack will mean that Lewis will go for an overtake - that would be Nico's Championship ruined (no offence to Nico but I don't see him getting past Lewis)...

Abe007

Original Poster:

26 posts

113 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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Derek Smith said:
Abe007 said:
So, Assuming Nico gets pole and leads the race on Sunday, what is his strategy from here, does he try and back Lewis up and hope other drivers get in the mix potentially causing an accident. Does he just drive off and hope Lewis has reliability issues.

I think he has got to try something, even so, given they will probably finish 1-2 Its Hamilton's, or ?
I had the conversation after the last race.

The general consensus was that he has got to be quick off the line as LH is pretty nifty in the early stages. So that means a gap opening up between the Mercs and the rest of the field fairly early on. Not much we thought, but that was when we expected Williams to be fast here. So maybe a bit off there.

The question was whether NR can allow LH to close up with the DRS being a significant advantage at the circuit.

The option pushed by one bloke was that NR will push LH off during an overtake, but there were objections to that. If NR goes for the inside and with the intent to run wide then he will have to brake later than LH, but off line, and that's not NR's strength. If he goes on the outside and LH gets to the corner first then he'll be past.

Even if NR did manage to counter the attempts at DRS overtakes then all that happens is that he's kept him back in to the WDC position.

More to the point I think, no criticism of your post, is LH's tactics.

If he goes for second then it will be second unless an overtake presents itself. Regardless of his supposedly more mature approach, he is unable to resist an overtake if it presents itself.

I reckon he might allow NR his lead until the second tyre change. He'll go for an overtake whilst NR is in the pits. This circuit allows cars to push at most spots without danger.

NR will, I think, have to go for something like tyre husbandry, hoping that LH will be kept on on worn rubber. However, if I was LH, I go for a change in tyre strategy. Perhaps a three-stopper, going out on the final stage on new super softs. That way the only time they'd be on the same bit of circuit would be on the first few laps and the last few.

I can't see this being an exciting race if LH keeps a sensible approach.

So the possibility of some excitement.
Yes, The ball is very much in LH court, It will be interesting to see if NR does have anything up his sleeve (or in his pocket biggrin) but surely he has got to try and back him up somehow and allow others into the mix, assuming he gets pole, which is imperative. Either way its gonna be a nail biter leading up to lights out. been watching LH and he looks really cool and focused, just hope reliability is not an issue and we have a great final race.

TheBALDpuma

5,842 posts

168 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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Is everyone assuming Nico is going to be on poll?

hairyben

8,516 posts

183 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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TheBALDpuma said:
Is everyone assuming Nico is going to be on poll?
is there any QUESTION about it?

Jasandjules

69,867 posts

229 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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Of course, it may be that Nico loses control and crashes as he is pushing too hard/under too much pressure. That will be that...

PhillipM

6,517 posts

189 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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The pace of the mercs is such that Rosberg can't back LH into the pack because he'd be so slow LH would overtake, his only real hope is to go longer on the tyres/strategy and try make Lewis drop into traffic, may be rather difficult given LH is usually better on tyres anyway.
Although as said, Hamilton only really needs to simply stop very early on a 3 stop as soon as he can keep out of the midfield, keeps him completely out of the way of Rosberg and any potential entanglements.

rdjohn

6,168 posts

195 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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£250k split between Lewis's mechanics should sort it.

Shattered disc, loose banjo on fuel pipe or duff map in control software seemed to work OK before.

Clearly, just driving into him proved very unpopular at Spa.

Joking apart, I really hope that it is a good clean race on Sunday. Either driver will be a worthy winner, but with 10 wins already, it would seem somewhat hollow if Nico only wins through a DNF or strategy cock-up from Lewis's side of the garage.

Edited by rdjohn on Friday 21st November 20:25

TheBALDpuma

5,842 posts

168 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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hairyben said:
TheBALDpuma said:
Is everyone assuming Nico is going to be on poll?
is there any QUESTION about it?
I didn't catch practice today, so unless Nico was obviously faster today then I don't see why there is an asumption that Nico will be on poll.

kiseca

9,339 posts

219 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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team underdog said:
Win the race and hope Hamilton has problems. Anything else is futile.
Exactly. He has no option really except fo for a win. It's Lewis who has options.

Jasandjules

69,867 posts

229 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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TheBALDpuma said:
I didn't catch practice today, so unless Nico was obviously faster today then I don't see why there is an asumption that Nico will be on poll.
He was neither faster nor softer on his tyres.

the other me

613 posts

153 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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He wasn't, so we shouldn't assume.

I don't see Rosberg having any cards worth playing up his sleeve, Lewis ? well, he must be bricking it that he doesn't have another "mechanical". . . .the only compensation there for him would be that he is 17 points ahead & not 26, so, in that unfortunate event, Nico would have won the championship anyhow if he wins the race.

caduceus

6,071 posts

266 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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Walford said:
An image too worthy to be compared to this watered down era of F1
Remove that picture at once! eek

Lewis and Nico aren't even in the same country, let alone ballpark as Senna and Prost. How dare you make the comparison nono