Brundle's recent Monaco Qualy comment

[woof]

I don't know if this has been said but Toto Wolff had a dinner with Damon Hill and others on Wednesday night and told them some facts about Nico that had changed his mind about Nico being this nice guy.

No doubt that Nico did deliberately drove into the run off area at Monaco and also deliberately drove into Lewis at Spa.

[EskimoArapaho]

Vocal Minority said:

As I said above, maybe I'm being too cynical about broadcasters. I didn't intend for anyone to take my comments as seriously as you seem to be!

As I said above I'm just responding to what has been said on here. Has Brundle changed his mind on the incident or is he just repeating what others have said?

Edited by Vocal Minority on Sunday 23 November 12:29

Maybe read up on Brundle, especially how he risked his F1 accreditation (and therefore his job) during the McLaren/Mosley/orgy saga. He's got cojones and integrity, AFAICS.

[Vocal Minority]

Fair enough. I will take it back.

Prepared to admit when I am wrong. Apologies to anyone who took offense.

[ZX10R NIN]

woof said:

I don't know if this has been said but Toto Wolff had a dinner with Damon Hill and others on Wednesday night and told them some facts about Nico that had changed his mind about Nico being this nice guy.

No doubt that Nico did deliberately drove into the run off area at Monaco and also deliberately drove into Lewis at Spa.

Nico didn't drive into Lewis at Spa but he wasn't going to let Lewis push him off the road like Austria hence Nico not giving up unfortunately it ended up in a mess a racing incident at the end of the day , Monaco i'm not so sure about but until I see proof he's not guilty.

It's not like Lewis was squeaky clean all season

[teacake]

The Stiglet said:

StevieBee said:

There was a time when several very well respected teams and drivers would activate a hidden switch to dump oil on the track having just set a fast time.

Which teams, when and which drivers?

The Ant Hill Mob, the Arkansas Chuggabug, and Dick Dastardly.

[Derek Smith]

I didn't believe he slid off on purpose. I thought the reversing was deliberate and should have been punished.

The group I watched the Monaco qually with when MS blocked the track all knew it was deliberate. Even the Ferrari fan agreed. So the stewards' decision was just confirmation of a dirty move.

NR's driving came up for discussion after Spa and the subject of Monaco came up. I had some doubt.

I then saw a bit on YouTube with NR's two qually laps side by side. It convinced me. I've had a few discussions with my friends and we all are now of the same opinion - and it is an opinion - that the deliberate, and planned.

I was no particular fan of his but that put him beyond the pale for me.

[swisstoni]

If anyone has a lot of interest in the Monaco incident, dig out the race thread for Monaco. Was gone into in a lot of detail with different viewing angles etc. Left me in no doubt.

[woof]

ZX10R NIN said:

woof said:

I don't know if this has been said but Toto Wolff had a dinner with Damon Hill and others on Wednesday night and told them some facts about Nico that had changed his mind about Nico being this nice guy.

No doubt that Nico did deliberately drove into the run off area at Monaco and also deliberately drove into Lewis at Spa.

Nico didn't drive into Lewis at Spa but he wasn't going to let Lewis push him off the road like Austria hence Nico not giving up unfortunately it ended up in a mess a racing incident at the end of the day , Monaco i'm not so sure about but until I see proof he's not guilty.

It's not like Lewis was squeaky clean all season

Apparently - Nico said he did do it deliberately - Lewis repeated that. Lewis got a slap on the wrist for repeating what was a private team conversation.

But I do agree with you the reason why Nico did that because he wanted to reassert himself after Lewis didn't give him room at Austria. Mind you - you shouldn't put yourself on the outside of a corner.

[DIW35]

I've always believed he did it deliberately. If I remember rightly, he had a small lockup in the same place during the actual race, but managed to make the corner on that occasion.

[ZX10R NIN]

woof said:

ZX10R NIN said:

woof said:

I don't know if this has been said but Toto Wolff had a dinner with Damon Hill and others on Wednesday night and told them some facts about Nico that had changed his mind about Nico being this nice guy.

No doubt that Nico did deliberately drove into the run off area at Monaco and also deliberately drove into Lewis at Spa.

Nico didn't drive into Lewis at Spa but he wasn't going to let Lewis push him off the road like Austria hence Nico not giving up unfortunately it ended up in a mess a racing incident at the end of the day , Monaco i'm not so sure about but until I see proof he's not guilty.

It's not like Lewis was squeaky clean all season

Apparently - Nico said he did do it deliberately - Lewis repeated that. Lewis got a slap on the wrist for repeating what was a private team conversation.

But I do agree with you the reason why Nico did that because he wanted to reassert himself after Lewis didn't give him room at Austria. Mind you - you shouldn't put yourself on the outside of a corner.

True but the drivers are supposed to give each other racing room(yea right) then as well as the Austria incident there was Bahrain when Lewis ran him out of road, as I said they've both been equally fast & lose with respecting each other track space so Spa was an unfortunate racing incident.

[tight fart]

I always thought Spa was deliberate, NR turned in, then opend the steering to avoid Lewis then took a lunge at him.

[thegreenhell]

woof said:

ZX10R NIN said:

woof said:

I don't know if this has been said but Toto Wolff had a dinner with Damon Hill and others on Wednesday night and told them some facts about Nico that had changed his mind about Nico being this nice guy.

No doubt that Nico did deliberately drove into the run off area at Monaco and also deliberately drove into Lewis at Spa.

Nico didn't drive into Lewis at Spa but he wasn't going to let Lewis push him off the road like Austria hence Nico not giving up unfortunately it ended up in a mess a racing incident at the end of the day , Monaco i'm not so sure about but until I see proof he's not guilty.

It's not like Lewis was squeaky clean all season

Apparently - Nico said he did do it deliberately - Lewis repeated that. Lewis got a slap on the wrist for repeating what was a private team conversation.

But I do agree with you the reason why Nico did that because he wanted to reassert himself after Lewis didn't give him room at Austria. Mind you - you shouldn't put yourself on the outside of a corner.

The deliberate act was to not yield from a position where Lewis was likely to drive into him. All he did was hold his own line rather than back out of it. The subtle difference is that he didn't deliberately crash into Lewis, but deliberately failed to avoid an avoidable collision.

tight fart said:

I always thought Spa was deliberate, NR turned in, then opend the steering to avoid Lewis then took a lunge at him.

No he didn't. It could look like that in super-slo-mo, but in real speed he just turned in to the corner, had to make a very quick corrective steering change, presumably to catch a small slide, then returned to exactly the same steering angle, all within a split second. No lunging involved.

[Scuffers]

Sorry, that's just total b0ll0cks

[carinaman]

That sawing at the wheel at Monaco looked dodgy from the outset.

[groomi]

teacake said:

The Stiglet said:

StevieBee said:

There was a time when several very well respected teams and drivers would activate a hidden switch to dump oil on the track having just set a fast time.

Which teams, when and which drivers?

The Ant Hill Mob, the Arkansas Chuggabug, and Dick Dastardly.

It was a well known fact during the first turbo era. The switch was located under the drivers right foot...

[Likes Fast Cars]

teacake said:

The Stiglet said:

StevieBee said:

There was a time when several very well respected teams and drivers would activate a hidden switch to dump oil on the track having just set a fast time.

Which teams, when and which drivers?

The Ant Hill Mob, the Arkansas Chuggabug, and Dick Dastardly.

Yes, I was thinking the same... brings back happy childhood memories watching those cartoons