Congratulations Lewis

Congratulations Lewis

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andyps

7,817 posts

282 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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vetrof said:
From the same article! WFT is Moss smoking?

Sterling Moss said:
"It was a wonderful result for the guy who deserved it," Moss told BBC Radio 5 live. "I'd put him above Schumacher. I mean Schumacher just happened to win a lot of titles, but he wasn't as quick."
I can see where Sir Stirling is coming from - Schumacher was in the best car when he won his championships, in a team set up specifically around what he needed to win and his team mates were racing with one hand tied behind their backs. It makes it difficult to know how absolutely quick he was. I have always felt that the number of championships Schumacher has are reflective of the situation at the time he was racing as much as his ability.

Derek Smith

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45,613 posts

248 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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Lost soul said:
vetrof said:
From the same article! WFT is Moss smoking?

Sterling Moss said:
"It was a wonderful result for the guy who deserved it," Moss told BBC Radio 5 live. "I'd put him above Schumacher. I mean Schumacher just happened to win a lot of titles, but he wasn't as quick."
Poor old Stirling , he sounds desperate to make an impact with a statement
The bloke knows nothing.


williamp

19,248 posts

273 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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Derek Smith said:
TheAngryDog said:
TBH, he hasn't done anything worthy of a Knighthood imo.
So he could get it then, you reckon?
Well hes won more championships and titles Moss has...

EskimoArapaho

5,135 posts

135 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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Good to see LH taking time out to remember where he came from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU93fChJxIc

Pdelamare

659 posts

128 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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EskimoArapaho said:
Good to see LH taking time out to remember where he came from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU93fChJxIc
Thanks for sharing. Lewis rocks haha

kiseca

9,339 posts

219 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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EskimoArapaho said:
Good to see LH taking time out to remember where he came from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU93fChJxIc
Nice one, Lewis!

vescaegg

25,529 posts

167 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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Quite a good column from him today.

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/30192260

No rest for the wicked!

entropy

5,431 posts

203 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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andyps said:
I can see where Sir Stirling is coming from - Schumacher was in the best car when he won his championships, in a team set up specifically around what he needed to win and his team mates were racing with one hand tied behind their backs. It makes it difficult to know how absolutely quick he was. I have always felt that the number of championships Schumacher has are reflective of the situation at the time he was racing as much as his ability.
Moss reckoned Schumi wasn't as good as LH in quali even though LH has been poor in quali. Having been rated as the quickest driver he has made far too many errors in Q3 for my liking.

andyps

7,817 posts

282 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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entropy said:
Moss reckoned Schumi wasn't as good as LH in quali even though LH has been poor in quali. Having been rated as the quickest driver he has made far too many errors in Q3 for my liking.
I don't disagree with you, Lewis has made more mistakes than he should have done in quali this year, we probably should be grateful as it made the races and championship closer!

Derek Smith

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45,613 posts

248 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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andyps said:
entropy said:
Moss reckoned Schumi wasn't as good as LH in quali even though LH has been poor in quali. Having been rated as the quickest driver he has made far too many errors in Q3 for my liking.
I don't disagree with you, Lewis has made more mistakes than he should have done in quali this year, we probably should be grateful as it made the races and championship closer!
Wolff reckoned that LH sets the car up for the race. I assume this means a compromise on fuel load. There have been suggestions that LH has concentrated on set-up more than he has in the past. It would explain things.

It is. I think, impossible to say that LH is a faster driver in the race just because he closes on NR as there are so many variables that things are never equal.

Certainly NR's qually speed is the most surprising thing for me. LH was touted as the one-lap king and I accepted it. For NR to beat him, and by 10ths, was a shock.

A fascinating season.


TheAngryDog

12,406 posts

209 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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williamp said:
Derek Smith said:
TheAngryDog said:
TBH, he hasn't done anything worthy of a Knighthood imo.
So he could get it then, you reckon?
Well hes won more championships and titles Moss has...
Very true, but in this day and age with "honours" are given out in packets of cornflakes, I think LH needs to wait a few more years.

I'm sure that when the time comes for him to be knighted (if he ever is) then I am sure he will be deserving of it. I'm not a fan of his, but it is nice to see that he is maturing and has proven me wrong. He had the best car this year, but he is a better champion than SV can ever hope to be imo, especially after all of the issues he has had. We do not know what went on behind the scenes when things haven't gone his way, but when it mattered, he delivered. I'll be surprised if he doesn't turn 2 championships into 4 at least.

I haven't said it yet, but well done Lewis (not that he will ever read this).

glazbagun

14,276 posts

197 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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HewManHeMan said:
Am I the only one who thinks that Jackie Stewart talks utter st?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/30179256

I mean, I should love the guy; champinship winner, old school racer... but every time I read a quote I just think "the fk is he on?!"
I'm too young to remember Stewart when he was a champ and doing his media stuff, but from reading his autobiography (which isn't the easiest book to read IMO) I don't think that he talks st, he just speaks his mind with more authority/attitude/less room for manoeuvre than most do. Witness his infamous interview with Senna post Prost crash. It leaves you adding all of the salt because he doesn't use any.

His comments (out of any context remember) don't strike me as outrageous in any way and his points about keeping his head down and avoiding distractions are probably of as much interest as a window into how Stewart did what he did than as a passive comment on Hamilton.


glazbagun

14,276 posts

197 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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EskimoArapaho said:
Good to see LH taking time out to remember where he came from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU93fChJxIc
That's great! smile

andyps

7,817 posts

282 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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Derek Smith said:
Certainly NR's qually speed is the most surprising thing for me. LH was touted as the one-lap king and I accepted it. For NR to beat him, and by 10ths, was a shock.

A fascinating season.
Absolutely - very surprising. The set up may have had something to do with it but without inside information I guess we just don't know.

mollytherocker

14,366 posts

209 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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Totally deserved, he raced better than Nico and thats what we like, yes?

Next year might be different. Nico might just raise his game. We shall see.

entropy

5,431 posts

203 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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andyps said:
Absolutely - very surprising. The set up may have had something to do with it but without inside information I guess we just don't know.
According to Mark Hughes:

"At both venues Rosberg secured pole but Hamilton had better race pace, the difference being that in Brazil Nico was able to use the track position advantage that pole had given him to keep Lewis behind. But both times Rosberg had fine-tuned a better one-lap balance from his car and delivered the big Q3 lap more effectively than Hamilton, whilst in the more variable conditions of the race as the tyres, fuel load and track surface changed Hamilton was better able to improvise."

http://www1.skysports.com/f1/report/22058/9559490/...

entropy

5,431 posts

203 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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andyps said:
I can see where Sir Stirling is coming from - Schumacher was in the best car when he won his championships, in a team set up specifically around what he needed to win and his team mates were racing with one hand tied behind their backs. It makes it difficult to know how absolutely quick he was. I have always felt that the number of championships Schumacher has are reflective of the situation at the time he was racing as much as his ability.
Schumi turned down McLaren and possibly an intra team rivalry with Hakkinen which would have been fascinating.

Arguably LH's achievment's trumps Schumi's record WDCs on the basis of intra team rivalries are far more intense than team rivalries.

simonpeter

188 posts

159 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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As Jackie Stewart says comparing drivers from different eras is pointless. Stirling always said Fangio was the best, then again he spent a long time watching him from behind.
Lewis will rank with the best, only history will prove where.

007 VXR

64,187 posts

187 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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glazbagun said:
EskimoArapaho said:
Good to see LH taking time out to remember where he came from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU93fChJxIc
That's great! smile
+1

But i would never tell my dad he was right most of the time LOL


Lost soul

8,712 posts

182 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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007 VXR said:
glazbagun said:
EskimoArapaho said:
Good to see LH taking time out to remember where he came from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU93fChJxIc
That's great! smile
+1

But i would never tell my dad he was right most of the time LOL
nice touch but what is he thinking with the Kim Jung Ill hair do ?