Mattiacci gone!
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woof said:
2 mins later Damon Hill said the same thing on Sky !
exactly the same thing happens when im co-commentating on the couch to my wife (be it F1 or motogp). i think it means we know and love our sports a little too much that we can call whats happening (on screen or behind the scenes) just that little bit faster 
It is all down to politics, stock market flotations and sponsorship. PM tobacco 'own' the branding on the Scuderia and re sell it to Official Sponsors etc. They have pumped in well over 1 billion dollars over the last eight years so I am guessing they can tell the Ferrari management exactly who does what, where and when. Remember Fiat has huge debts having bought Chrysler recently and want to float Ferrari on the stock market. They bring in the head of sales in America to run the business and an expert in marketing, and F1 politics to run the team.....in addition to pleasing John Elkann the CEO of Fiat Chrysler.
Ferrari cannot afford to watch F1 implode, neither can Philip Morris and it seems as if the new man who has represented F1 sponsors within the FIA could well be just what is needed to firm up Scuderia.
The have also been busy employing a huge number of new engineers sand mechanics from Lotus, McLaren and Mercedes....so as ever Brits will do the hard graft and one or two Italians can continue to feed themselves.
I also understand that Arrirvabene was out of contract with Philip Morris which means nobody has to pay any more money regarding a job switch. Ferrari are happy, their biggest sponsor is happy, Bernie is happy and Fiat have a strong ally deep within every camp. Let normal service resume and expect some huge signings over the next few weeks regarding senior engineers and designers.
Ferrari cannot afford to watch F1 implode, neither can Philip Morris and it seems as if the new man who has represented F1 sponsors within the FIA could well be just what is needed to firm up Scuderia.
The have also been busy employing a huge number of new engineers sand mechanics from Lotus, McLaren and Mercedes....so as ever Brits will do the hard graft and one or two Italians can continue to feed themselves.
I also understand that Arrirvabene was out of contract with Philip Morris which means nobody has to pay any more money regarding a job switch. Ferrari are happy, their biggest sponsor is happy, Bernie is happy and Fiat have a strong ally deep within every camp. Let normal service resume and expect some huge signings over the next few weeks regarding senior engineers and designers.
But this is a big part of the problem. Too much politics, and it will continue (get worse?) with another Italian heading it. As someone pointed out in an earlier post, they need a foreigner to run the team; the Italians get too involved / caught-up in the internal politics and the public expectations.
They can hire all the talent they like but if they cannot structure the team and manage it well, results won't follow.
They can hire all the talent they like but if they cannot structure the team and manage it well, results won't follow.
Likes Fast Cars said:
But this is a big part of the problem. Too much politics, and it will continue (get worse?) with another Italian heading it. As someone pointed out in an earlier post, they need a foreigner to run the team; the Italians get too involved / caught-up in the internal politics and the public expectations.
They can hire all the talent they like but if they cannot structure the team and manage it well, results won't follow.
That was half the problem at Honda too. The Japanese management were sticklers for procedure, rules, strict hierarchy of command, political wrangling as to what that hierarchy was, saving face, etc. All things that don't lend themselves at all to a F1 team. They can hire all the talent they like but if they cannot structure the team and manage it well, results won't follow.
Interesting article on the Autosport website suggesting that Mattiacci was dumped because he didn't cozy up to Bernie well enough, and hence wasn't currying the kind of political clout to maintain Ferrari's (unfairly) privileged position in F1.
The implication is that Mattiacci was doing very well at restructuring the team to be competitive, but Ferrari are more interested in politics than racing.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/116930
The implication is that Mattiacci was doing very well at restructuring the team to be competitive, but Ferrari are more interested in politics than racing.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/116930
JonRB said:
Interesting article on the Autosport website suggesting that Mattiacci was dumped because he didn't cozy up to Bernie well enough, and hence wasn't currying the kind of political clout to maintain Ferrari's (unfairly) privileged position in F1.
The implication is that Mattiacci was doing very well at restructuring the team to be competitive, but Ferrari are more interested in politics than racing.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/116930
I'm in fits of laughter having read the part about him understanding the "... the governance mechanisms and requirements of the sport..." - what Governance? The concept is an oxymoron in the context of F1.The implication is that Mattiacci was doing very well at restructuring the team to be competitive, but Ferrari are more interested in politics than racing.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/116930
JonRB said:
Interesting article on the Autosport website suggesting that Mattiacci was dumped because he didn't cozy up to Bernie well enough, and hence wasn't currying the kind of political clout to maintain Ferrari's (unfairly) privileged position in F1.
The implication is that Mattiacci was doing very well at restructuring the team to be competitive, but Ferrari are more interested in politics than racing.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/116930
So they are suggesting, in essence, that Ecclestone demanded his sacking. The implication is that Mattiacci was doing very well at restructuring the team to be competitive, but Ferrari are more interested in politics than racing.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/116930
Eggs and basket comes to mind.
JonRB said:
That was half the problem at Honda too. The Japanese management were sticklers for procedure, rules, strict hierarchy of command, political wrangling as to what that hierarchy was, saving face, etc. All things that don't lend themselves at all to a F1 team.
It worked just fine in the Senna era Lost soul said:
JonRB said:
That was half the problem at Honda too. The Japanese management were sticklers for procedure, rules, strict hierarchy of command, political wrangling as to what that hierarchy was, saving face, etc. All things that don't lend themselves at all to a F1 team.
It worked just fine in the Senna era 
The same was said about the Toyota F1 team too
Lost soul said:
JonRB said:
That was half the problem at Honda too. The Japanese management were sticklers for procedure, rules, strict hierarchy of command, political wrangling as to what that hierarchy was, saving face, etc. All things that don't lend themselves at all to a F1 team.
It worked just fine in the Senna era Edit: For some reason MartG's post wasn't showing when I made my reply. How odd. But, yes, exactly so.
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