What F1 car.

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grkify

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366 posts

119 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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what F1 car/feature would you like to have seen/see developed further. Personally its these, specially after seeing the redbull x2010 concept but would require a lunatic to drive it for obvious reasons.

Mark-C

5,010 posts

204 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Lotus 88


Derek Smith

45,512 posts

247 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Brabham BT55.

All they needed to do was develop it so that the gearbox didn't glow in the dark and that the damn thing went at the same speed as some of the slower cars on the grid.

Looked superb though. Amongst all the other cars on circuit it looked like the GP car of tomorrow. It is a shame that the technology didn't arrive until them.

It was radical, but unlike the other radical cars that came out: 6-wheelers, fan cars, that sort of thing, it looked the business.


williamp

19,213 posts

272 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Large airboxes. Good for sponsorship. Good for safety. The bigger the better!

Megaflow

9,347 posts

224 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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MP4/4 and FW14B

IanMorewood

4,309 posts

247 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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March 2/4/0 could have done with a few grand and some time thrown at it.

andyps

7,817 posts

281 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Derek Smith said:
Brabham BT55.

All they needed to do was develop it so that the gearbox didn't glow in the dark and that the damn thing went at the same speed as some of the slower cars on the grid.

Looked superb though. Amongst all the other cars on circuit it looked like the GP car of tomorrow. It is a shame that the technology didn't arrive until them.

It was radical, but unlike the other radical cars that came out: 6-wheelers, fan cars, that sort of thing, it looked the business.
To some extent you could say that it was developed into the McLaren MP4/4 which did go on to be quite successful. SO it definitely had potential.

Tc24

527 posts

138 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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A little biasedcloud9 here, as not old enough to remember many of the cars already posted, but my picks from the last 15 or so years are:

McLaren MP4-20


On '04 tyres I think this would probably be the quickest F1 car ever built. Imagine if regulations had stayed the same since '05 and this car had been developed by McLaren for another 9 years - I imagine we'd be looking at 1,100hp and some insane downforce levels. Not to mention it's one of the best looking F1 cars ever...

And...

McLaren MP4-27


Just to see if things would have played out differently had McLaren continued to follow the same design philosophy into 2013 rather than the fairly disastrous route they took with the MP4-28. Would they be in the same situation that they are now?

Purely coincidental that both my picks are McLaren cars. Although I would have been watching, anything much before 96/97 I struggle to remember as would only have been young then, so no odd design philosophies from the 70s or 80s that I know enough about to choose smile

Eric Mc

121,779 posts

264 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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What would F1 cars look like today if the CSI (the old governing body) had banned wings in 1968/69?

Megaflow

9,347 posts

224 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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A lot like the Lotus 88 I suspect, using the body to create downforce, but without the twin chassis.

Eric Mc

121,779 posts

264 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Perhaps. The use of bodywork to create downforce has a history a bit separate to the development of aerofoils - so it might have arrived in due course.

NewMetalSystem

351 posts

178 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Really irrelevant, but this page cropped on google when I was looking up the BT55 on images:

I hope more teams follow Williams example from this season and go back to more retro/ simple liveries. These look stunning...




BlackpoolRock

1,183 posts

151 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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[quote=Tc24]A little biasedcloud9 here, as not old enough to remember many of the cars already posted, but my picks from the last 15 or so years are:

McLaren MP4-20


On '04 tyres I think this would probably be the quickest F1 car ever built. Imagine if regulations had stayed the same since '05 and this car had been developed by McLaren for another 9 years - I imagine we'd be looking at 1,100hp and some insane downforce levels. Not to mention it's one of the best looking F1 cars ever...
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This one for me too. I think it also has the highest speed recorded in a straight line with Montoya at Monza. Shame it was unreliable it really was a Newey monster

entropy

5,403 posts

202 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Not F1 but the BLAT concept used in Indycar which ended up being banned quickly.

The twin vortices from delta shape concept ended up on the Delta Wing car.

It would be really interesting how single seaters would have gone to develop. Certainly much cleaner looking and without the need for bargeboards and flick ups. I wonder if the BT55 was influenced by BLAT?

http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/race/us-scene/in...

http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/race/sports-cars...

Eric Mc

121,779 posts

264 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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How about twin engined -



Technically a Grand Prix car rather than an F1 car.

Schermerhorn

4,342 posts

188 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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I would have loved to have seen 'fan car' style technology merged with Red Bull Diffuser technology.

Blayney

2,948 posts

185 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Would have liked to see the Toyota TF110 run. I think Toyota spent a chunk on it, extreme diffuser and ride height adjustment. Could've been competitive.

Doink

1,652 posts

146 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Just purely on looks my all time favourite design/shape never to be beaten EVER has to be the Jordan 191

Eric Mc

121,779 posts

264 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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This isn't a "my favourite F1 car" thread. We've had plenty of those already.

I think it is interesting to speculate on what technical concepts that once promised much but have fallen by the wayside would look like today if they had made a bigger impact when they were new - or not been banned.

I previously suggested the twin engined Alfa Romeo. What about four wheel drive - or turbines?

andyps

7,817 posts

281 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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I've never thought 4wd worht considering for F1, the one attempt was probably enough. Turbine engines would be great to have explored further.

Can't remember which it was but I would love to know how the McLaren they never actually got round to racing about 15 years ago could have worked.