Alonso airlifted to hospital

Alonso airlifted to hospital

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onyx39

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11,109 posts

149 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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Just read that Fernando Alonso has been airlifted to hospital after putting the McLaren in the wall at 150 mph frown

http://www.itv.com/news/2015-02-22/fernando-alonso...

Edited by onyx39 on Sunday 22 February 13:46

slipstream 1985

12,125 posts

178 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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Any more news on this anywhere else?

Kinky

39,368 posts

268 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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RKi

307 posts

129 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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Stupid MP4-30 trying to kill the Chosen one :@

onyx39

Original Poster:

11,109 posts

149 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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RKi said:
Stupid MP4-30 trying to kill the Chosen one :@
Has anyone asked Kevin Magnusen where he was?

Heartworm

1,922 posts

160 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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reports he is conscious, speaking and OK from the BBC.

PiB

1,195 posts

269 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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Electrocuted

Inertiatic

1,040 posts

189 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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PiB said:
Electrocuted
Is there a source for that?

Ted said:

Let’s look at the possibilities,” says Ted. “Either something failed in the car – a component failure or, as has been wildly suggested online, there was an energy recovery failure which might have given Fernando an electrical shock. We can discount that; I’ve just spoken to Renault who say because that because the car was grounded it shouldn’t be possible for a driver to receive an electrical shock.

red_slr

17,122 posts

188 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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That is correct - why each new driver must pass the FIA "jump out test" before they can drive.

red_slr

17,122 posts

188 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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I.e you have to jump out of the car without touching car and ground at the same time.

Pints

18,444 posts

193 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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According to Vettel, who was following Alonso, "the speed was slow -- maybe 150kph. Then he turned right into the wall. It looked strange."

http://www.f1-fansite.com/f1-news/alonso-airlifted...

Mr_Thyroid

1,995 posts

226 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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Inertiatic said:
Is there a source for that?

Ted said:

Let’s look at the possibilities,” says Ted. “Either something failed in the car – a component failure or, as has been wildly suggested online, there was an energy recovery failure which might have given Fernando an electrical shock. We can discount that; I’ve just spoken to Renault who say because that because the car was grounded it shouldn’t be possible for a driver to receive an electrical shock.
Is the suggestion that he was electrocuted whilst driving or while getting out? I guess while driving......I'm no physicist, or an electrician, but I would've thought it would be impossible if the car was not grounded and if it was grounded surely it depends on the relative conductivity of human vs carbon fibre.
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F355GTS

3,721 posts

254 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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Mr_Thyroid said:
Inertiatic said:
Is there a source for that?

Ted said:

Let’s look at the possibilities,” says Ted. “Either something failed in the car – a component failure or, as has been wildly suggested online, there was an energy recovery failure which might have given Fernando an electrical shock. We can discount that; I’ve just spoken to Renault who say because that because the car was grounded it shouldn’t be possible for a driver to receive an electrical shock.
Is the suggestion that he was electrocuted whilst driving or while getting out? I guess while driving......I'm no physicist, or an electrician, but I would've thought it would be impossible if the car was not grounded and if it was grounded surely it depends on the relative conductivity of human vs carbon fibre.
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I suspect the car was grounded to the wall

carinaman

21,214 posts

171 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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Shocking news.

gowmonster

2,471 posts

166 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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at the point of driving along surely the tyres isolate the car from the ground unless there are some grounding strips that make contact?

RogerVulva

1,130 posts

189 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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gowmonster said:
at the point of driving along surely the tyres isolate the car from the ground unless there are some grounding strips that make contact?
Because race car?

Adrian W

13,848 posts

227 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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in this case earth would be the other side of the batteries, not the ground

BigBen

11,610 posts

229 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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Adrian W said:
in this case earth would be the other side of the batteries, not the ground
Or the ground. Current will take the path of least resistance.

Ben

upsidedownmark

2,120 posts

134 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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Which is precisely what Boulier's point is. A proper electrical connection to the neutral side of the battery is a far, far better conductor (lower resistance) than a human being, especially one wearing race boots and gloves.

For that human to become the conductor, something needs to have gone seriously wrong on the electrical side (lack of grounding). You also need a lot of volts (no idea what these systems run at) to bridge like that, and as the systems are battery driven DC, I'd expect that kind of event to be really serious; DC is more damaging, and a battery can dump a lot of amps very quickly.

Will be interesting to find out, but I'm pretty skeptical, especially if the car was (apparently) properly grounded in the electrical sense.

Adrian W

13,848 posts

227 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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My Lexus runs at over 600 volts