Alonso not racing in Australian GP

[hornet]

Gazzab said:

It isn't about us having the right to the info it's about the concern that there may be more to this story going on the bizarre accident and info to date. As fans of f1 then we are interested in the story. The politics, legalities and other stuff are generally bigger stories than the on circuit action.

Thing is though, the notion that there's more to it has come from speculation and conspiracy theories, to the point the whole thing is now feeding on itself. People are demanding answers, then instantly disregarding any that don't fit their own opinion of "what really happened", perpetuating the speculation loop. The whole thing now seems to have taken on a life of its own, completely divorced from Alonso's well being and instead driven by some weird X-Files desire for "The Truth". Really quite weird to watch it unfold. I note nobody seems to be questioning Stoneman's FR3.5 crash being triggered by a gust of wind, but that's something that's instantly dismissed as a valid cause for Alonso's crash. Feels like people almost want there to be a conspiracy so they can play Mulder and Scully.

[Chrisgr31]

Gazzab said:

It isn't about us having the right to the info it's about the concern that there may be more to this story going on the bizarre accident and info to date. As fans of f1 then we are interested in the story. The politics, legalities and other stuff are generally bigger stories than the on circuit action.

Historically we would not have known about the accident let alone had forums on which to discuss it endlessly!

[anonymous-user]

Gazzab said:

It isn't about us having the right to the info it's about the concern that there may be more to this story going on the bizarre accident and info to date. As fans of f1 then we are interested in the story. The politics, legalities and other stuff are generally bigger stories than the on circuit action.

The F1 drivers association seem to be as much in the dark as us. Not a satisfactory situation I would argue.

[markcoznottz]

Like Brundle has said before, it was better in the old days because you just didn't know. Surely Piquet senior would have had to retire after his crash where he knocked his head with today's telemetry etc. Ditto mansell when his williams came down basically straight on his spine, and missed subsequent races. Brave blokes if you ask me in those mobile coffins back then.

[suffolk009]

^^^^ I remember seeing James Allison on the F1 show a couple of years ago, there was an old Ferrari in the studio and Pinkham was trying to get him to say that he liked it, thought it was beautiful, usual fawning over classic cars stuff. He simply said (something like) "No, I just see engineering mistakes. And I wonder why anyone would have agreed to drive it."

[johneturbo]

garyhun said:

I spent the 2nd half of a game of football with concussion (Uni back in the 80s). I didn't touch the ball once and just kept wandering around the pitch aimlessly according to my friends at the time.

Sounds like how england play football!

[untakenname]

From the picture he just posted on his facebook page it looks like his back to full health https://www.facebook.com/FernandoAlonsoOficial

[covboy]

untakenname said:

From the picture he just posted on his facebook page it looks like his back to full health https://www.facebook.com/FernandoAlonsoOficial

Trouble is now he thinks he's Arnold Schwarzenegger

Edited by covboy on Thursday 12th March 21:01

[Norfolkit]

Nice quote from Boullier today about Alonso and his concussion, "there are still some grey areas to clarify"

[RogerVulva]

covboy said:

Trouble is now he thinks he's Arnold Schwarzenegger

Edited by covboy on Thursday 12th March 21:01

Arnold is in Melbourne this weekend (along with thousands of orange and T shaped people for some expo)

[wc98]

Norfolkit said:

Nice quote from Boullier today about Alonso and his concussion, "there are still some grey areas to clarify"

possibly the grey areas involve a large electric shock as opposed to any concussion ?

[Some Gump]

Wc,

Since you clearly know what happened, please can you explain how a large electric shock allowed full brake pressure to be applied, as well as multiple downchanges - as the telemetry confirmed to th FIA? My basic understanding of electric shocks says that all affected muscles simply contract at once - clearly not in this case.

[Inertiatic]

Some Gump said:

Wc,

Since you clearly know what happened, please can you explain how a large electric shock allowed full brake pressure to be applied, as well as multiple downchanges - as the telemetry confirmed to th FIA? My basic understanding of electric shocks says that all affected muscles simply contract at once - clearly not in this case.

And also, the process by which the car could have electrocuted its driver, and then made itself safe by the time the marshalls had got to him. Or how a non grounded car could electrocute the driver within his safety cell.

This is genuine. I am interested.

[FourWheelDrift]

Inertiatic said:

And also, the process by which the car could have electrocuted its driver, and then made itself safe by the time the marshalls had got to him. Or how a non grounded car could electrocute the driver within his safety cell.

This is genuine. I am interested.

They have introduced new titanium blocks under the cars and we saw in Melbourne they were bottoming out a lot, lots of sparks. Could the car bottoming out at the wrong time, plus an already dislodged/failed component (they have had a few failures) cause a shock through the tub? Then the car stops and the shut down system when a car stops kicked in making it safe for the marshals (green light on).

[covboy]

FourWheelDrift said:

Inertiatic said:

And also, the process by which the car could have electrocuted its driver, and then made itself safe by the time the marshalls had got to him. Or how a non grounded car could electrocute the driver within his safety cell.

This is genuine. I am interested.

They have introduced new titanium blocks under the cars and we saw in Melbourne they were bottoming out a lot, lots of sparks. Could the car bottoming out at the wrong time, plus an already dislodged/failed component (they have had a few failures) cause a shock through the tub? Then the car stops and the shut down system when a car stops kicked in making it safe for the marshals (green light on).

I still think he was shpt from the grassy knoll

[RichB]

Shouldn't that be a grassy knpl?

[RichB]

RichB said:

Shouldn't that be a grassy knpll?

[wc98]

Some Gump said:

Wc,

Since you clearly know what happened, please can you explain how a large electric shock allowed full brake pressure to be applied, as well as multiple downchanges - as the telemetry confirmed to th FIA? My basic understanding of electric shocks says that all affected muscles simply contract at once - clearly not in this case.

it was a genuine question .i do not know, but the extended absence seems a bit ott for a simple concussion with no apparent side effects.
i understand concussion can cause serious problems ,but usually these physically manifest themselves,double/blurred vision,dizziness etc . i have not seen any reports suggesting alonso is suffering any of these .

[fomb]

wc98 said:

it was a genuine question .i do not know, but the extended absence seems a bit ott for a simple concussion with no apparent side effects.

As far as we know he has no ongoing issues - the issue is that the FIA and his doctors want to leave at least 21 days for recovery to help prevent any issues with another impact. 21 days after his accident was yesterday.

Assuming the FIA green light him now he'll be fine.

[Jacobyte]

Looks like he's at McLaren today. Can anyone see the strings?

https://twitter.com/McLarenF1/status/5778654582647...