Alonso not racing in Australian GP

Alonso not racing in Australian GP

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ERIKM400

132 posts

132 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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There is something strange about this story.
After all, it was a relatively minor accident (compared to say Kubica in Canada 2007).
However they kept him in the hospital for 3 days and as a consequence Fernando will not be starting in the first GP of 2015.
Alhtough the doctors are saying he sustained no injury wathsoever, they still advise him not to take part in the Australian GP.
If (and mean if) he's had a "fit" (= epileptic insult)causing him to crash then it's game over for him. No way he'll get through the medical tests for a FIA F1 Superlicence with a history of recent seizures.
And if this is just a precautionary measure for a concussion?? In that case the test (third) drivers from the various teams are going to be covering some serious racing miles this year.

Just my 5p

Based on 20 years of experience in motorsport medicine.

:-)

The Moose

22,845 posts

209 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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ERIKM400 said:
There is something strange about this story.
After all, it was a relatively minor accident (compared to say Kubica in Canada 2007).
However they kept him in the hospital for 3 days and as a consequence Fernando will not be starting in the first GP of 2015.
Alhtough the doctors are saying he sustained no injury wathsoever, they still advise him not to take part in the Australian GP.
If (and mean if) he's had a "fit" (= epileptic insult)causing him to crash then it's game over for him. No way he'll get through the medical tests for a FIA F1 Superlicence with a history of recent seizures.
And if this is just a precautionary measure for a concussion?? In that case the test (third) drivers from the various teams are going to be covering some serious racing miles this year.

Just my 5p

Based on 20 years of experience in motorsport medicine.

:-)
All I would say is that no 2 accidents are the same.

A relatively innocuous looking accident can be fatal due to many different things and yet major big smashes leave little more than cuts and bruises.

Not just about how much carbon flies in so many different directions!

babelfish

921 posts

207 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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according to a reviewer on Sky News Press Preview Alonso was in a coma.

not sure if crap reporting or crap reviewing but think the latter....

thegreenhell

15,285 posts

219 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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ERIKM400 said:
There is something strange about this story.
There is nothing strange about this story. If he was still with Ferrari and had had this same crash with the same outcome then there would be none of this speculation or conspiracy theories.

Vettel didn't see the accident, only the aftermath. He pulled completely off the track at T1 to let Alonso through (there is a video of this on youtube) and couldn't have observed the accident start, so his opinion of the cause is compromised.

Alsonso had a bump on the head that caused concussion and possibly amnesia. Given the recent head injuries to Schumacher and Bianchi, as well as the recently publicised lawsuits for brain injuries from concussions in the NFL and NHL, it is understandable that there is some extra caution in allowing him back in the cockpit. Even professional experts in this field admit they don't fully understand the nature and recovery of such head injuries, but apparently internet experts do.

Podie

46,630 posts

275 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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Article in The Times this morning saying he thought he was 13 and s karting star after the accident.

BritishRacinGrin

24,654 posts

160 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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Alonso 'may never drive again' according to the Mirror rolleyes

Dick Seaman

1,078 posts

223 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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Podie said:
Article in The Times this morning saying he thought he was 13 and s karting star after the accident.
Temporary amnesia is a relatively common side effect of head injury.

Apparently he said he was hoping to make it to F1! Surprised Ron didn't take that opportunity to renegotiate his contract.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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hora said:
When I had concussion they asked me who the Prime Minister was- I knew it, it was on the tip of my tongue. Apparently for about 2hours I said I'd have the answer soon and kept on apologising for not knowing.
I spent the 2nd half of a game of football with concussion (Uni back in the 80s). I didn't touch the ball once and just kept wandering around the pitch aimlessly according to my friends at the time.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

171 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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BritishRacinGrin said:
Alonso 'may never drive again' according to the Mirror rolleyes
frown, hopefully that is just media frenzy.

whatleytom

1,288 posts

183 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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Mermaid said:
BritishRacinGrin said:
Alonso 'may never drive again' according to the Mirror rolleyes
frown, hopefully that is just media frenzy.
God, I hope there isn't a shred of truth in that. Would be devasting.

rubystone

11,252 posts

259 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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Dick Seaman said:
Apparently he said he was hoping to make it to F1! Surprised Ron didn't take that opportunity to renegotiate his contract.
hehe

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

228 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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rubystone said:
Dick Seaman said:
Apparently he said he was hoping to make it to F1! Surprised Ron didn't take that opportunity to renegotiate his contract.
hehe
hehe

'Won day Won I'm gonna wace for you.'

Podie

46,630 posts

275 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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Dick Seaman said:
Podie said:
Article in The Times this morning saying he thought he was 13 and s karting star after the accident.
Temporary amnesia is a relatively common side effect of head injury.

Apparently he said he was hoping to make it to F1! Surprised Ron didn't take that opportunity to renegotiate his contract.
More than familiar with the side affects of head injury, but thanks hehe

I know... I read the article! hehe

benjj

6,787 posts

163 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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I suspect that;

1) There is nothing particularly unusual about this and they're playing it safe after the several bad knocks over the last few years.

2) McLaren are being their normal, idiotic spazmo selves about this and really not helping stuff with their lack of clear, unambiguous information.

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

228 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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BlackpoolRock said:
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One page back. smile

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VictorMedrew

16 posts

127 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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garyhun said:
I spent the 2nd half of a game of football with concussion (Uni back in the 80s). I didn't touch the ball once and just kept wandering around the pitch aimlessly........
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Do you now play for England?

Europa1

10,923 posts

188 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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VictorMedrew said:
garyhun said:
I spent the 2nd half of a game of football with concussion (Uni back in the 80s). I didn't touch the ball once and just kept wandering around the pitch aimlessly........
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Do you now play for England?
hehe

EskimoArapaho

5,135 posts

135 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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whatleytom said:
Mermaid said:
BritishRacinGrin said:
Alonso 'may never drive again' according to the Mirror rolleyes
frown, hopefully that is just media frenzy.
God, I hope there isn't a shred of truth in that. Would be devasting.
You've got to wonder about older F1 driver's motivations now. After Schumacher and Bianchi falling into such horrible states after head trauma, it must be a real test of Alonso's F1 hunger to take a significant bash to the brain and then rush to get back into a car.

If he has no memory of what happened, and therefore no way of knowing how he could avoid the same happening again, he may be disinclined to jump back in. Can't say I blame him.

(Yes, I know Schumacher's incident wasn't an F1 crash.)

Jonsnow606

116 posts

114 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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Is it me, or do Mclaren come across as a bunch of incompetent idiots with whatever they do?...

With the debacle of pre-season contract negotiations, then this a month later.

With the history of the company, I've always been a fan, but over the past few years I've become disillusioned with some very strange things they've done, to a stage were I actually enjoy any sort of misfortune they have.

They do come across as the most incompetent of the bigger f1 teams, so I suppose it shouldn't be a surprise.



Edited by Jonsnow606 on Friday 6th March 13:16