The Official 2015 Spanish Grand Prix tread ** SPOILERS**

The Official 2015 Spanish Grand Prix tread ** SPOILERS**

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coetzeeh

2,648 posts

236 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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Wanta996Gotta said:
angrymoby said:
cooler temps, front-limited track & a punchy Nico? ...a Merc 1-2 all day long
Totally agree. Some posters also not remembering that Lewis was 2 seconds infront of Vettel after 3 laps at the weekend. I think Rosberg overtook Vettel 3 times and Kimi earlier in the race with ease.

Not sure what people are baseing there opinions on. The Mercedes to me was allot quicker than the Ferrari.
F1 is no longer a sprint. No point in Seb running in the dirty air as it would not help his tyre life.

Ferrari overtook Merc on track (and pulled away easily) and finished in second place - 4 seconds behind the Merc of LH.

Tortoise and the Hare smile. The Ferraris are not as quick as the Mercs but have enough pace to make Merc think twice.

stevesingo

4,855 posts

222 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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Outright pace, for sure the Merc is quicker, but a Grand Prix is not about outright pace it is about tyre management.

Of course, NR used the outright pace to overtake and gain track position, but once ahead he could not maintain the same level of attack as he would have been out of tyres too early in the stint and been on the back foot.

Unfortunately, on both occasions where SV undercut NR, it wasn't by enough to be out of DRS range once NR emerged from the pits, so it is too easy for NR to pass SV on the staight and then give SV the dirty air to chew on for the remainder of the lap whilst NR has the advantage of clean air to break the 1.0sec DRS gap.

I felt the kept KR out too long in the 2nd stint, but that was last week.

In Spain, I can't see anything other than a Merc 1-2. Cooler, front limited and limited passing places.

Anyone know what the tyre allocation is? This will have an effect.

confucuis

1,303 posts

124 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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Don't Ferrari normally bring updates to Spain? Will the bring updates next week?

London424

12,829 posts

175 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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confucuis said:
Don't Ferrari normally bring updates to Spain? Will the bring updates next week?
Everyone brings updates...it'll be interesting to see what each team brings.

IainT

10,040 posts

238 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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There was talk of a 60hp upgrade to the Ferrari engine due. IF that's true Merc will have to turn up to 75%.

Mikeeb

406 posts

118 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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With cooler temps Merc will not so restricted with brakes overheating issues so will be able to run a lot harder, their DF will be less compromised by the brake cooling requirement too.

Ferrari will also have a harder time getting their tyres up to temperature as quickly too.

Merc 1-2 unless they have a problem.

stevesingo

4,855 posts

222 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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It looks like the tyre allocation for Spain will favour the Mercs as for Spain, Pirelli will bring the hard and medium tyres.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/118637

Crafty_

13,286 posts

200 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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IainT said:
There was talk of a 60hp upgrade to the Ferrari engine due. IF that's true Merc will have to turn up to 75%.
Not heard of 60hp, but I did read a 20-30hp increase. This was due to come to Spain but now won't appear until Canada. I think the delay is because they are integrating a reliability fix after finding cracks in the engines used in China (IIRC related to the block).

McLaren are bringing upgrades to Spain, according to Button's interview in China. One presumes this will include a way to prevent the thing switching itself off...

Red Bull are pushing Renault hard for a big upgrade, which maybe isn't the best idea. IIRC Marko also said they have a chassis/aero package coming too that he made quite clear Newey had been working on.



btcc123

1,243 posts

147 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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It was interesting listening to the Claire Williams interview at Bahrain when she said that she was not surprised at the progress of Ferrari as she heard that they had decided to increase their budget this year by 100 million,not far off what Williams budget is for the whole season.

TVR1

5,463 posts

225 months

Saturday 2nd May 2015
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Edited by TVR1 on Saturday 2nd May 19:04

007 VXR

Original Poster:

64,187 posts

187 months

Saturday 2nd May 2015
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Bags packed already biggrin

ajprice

27,483 posts

196 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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McLaren may have a new livery for Spain http://adamcooperf1.com/2015/05/02/mclaren-to-debu...

It will probably be grey rolleyes

Mr_Thyroid

1,995 posts

227 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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ajprice said:
McLaren may have a new livery for Spain http://adamcooperf1.com/2015/05/02/mclaren-to-debu...

It will probably be grey rolleyes
So he [Dennis] seems to be saying "yes I know the current colour scheme looks awful, but the fact that it is bad is not a good reason to change it" - could this attitude point to the reason they haven't won a race for over two years.

DanielSan

18,793 posts

167 months

Monday 4th May 2015
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Probably a yes to both

deeen

6,080 posts

245 months

Monday 4th May 2015
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Mr_Thyroid said:
ajprice said:
McLaren may have a new livery for Spain http://adamcooperf1.com/2015/05/02/mclaren-to-debu...

It will probably be grey rolleyes
So he [Dennis] seems to be saying "yes I know the current colour scheme looks awful, but the fact that it is bad is not a good reason to change it" - could this attitude point to the reason they haven't won a race for over two years.
New livery? "YOUR COMPANY NAME HERE" in what colour?

Crafty_

13,286 posts

200 months

Monday 4th May 2015
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They did say over the winter that this was an interim livery, so not unexpected.

It did make me laugh last year when SAP sponsored a few races, the logo was slapped on the car at a jaunty angle in bright colours. I bet Ron hated it hehe

Edited by Crafty_ on Monday 4th May 12:35

Crafty_

13,286 posts

200 months

Monday 4th May 2015
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McLaren dropping livery hints on instagram ?? TAG back as a sponsor ? red & white ? who knows..



All will be revealed on Thursday apparently.

ajprice

27,483 posts

196 months

Monday 4th May 2015
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Crafty_ said:
TAG back as a sponsor ?
When were TAG not a sponsor?
http://www.tagheuer.co.uk/int-en/watch-news/tag-he...
TAG Heuer said:
This watch marks the 30th anniversary of the partnership between TAG Heuer and McLaren

DanielSan

18,793 posts

167 months

Monday 4th May 2015
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The only constant with McLaren at the moment is that whatever the change is it'll be a disappointment.

Mr_Thyroid

1,995 posts

227 months

Monday 4th May 2015
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Crafty_ said:
McLaren dropping livery hints on instagram ?? TAG back as a sponsor ? red & white ? who knows..



All will be revealed on Thursday apparently.
Let's hope that picture refers to a significant boost in performance, not just some retro nostalgic livery change - because without the performance any reference to the late 80s will look pretty silly.

Either way I think a new era should be allowed to define itself - like the retro Lotus JPS livery, it will never look as good as we remember.

Funny how teams are allowed to change livery but drivers are not.