The Official 2015 Monaco Grand Prix thread **SPOILERS**
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VladD said:
I think Lewis will be on pole by 0.4 seconds over Nico. He won't want Nico having that hattrick or winning two on the bounce.
A tad optimistic! 0.1 or possibly 0.2 difference between the top 2..Lewis certainly seems to be on it from FP1, but then again the track needs to rubber in and will change significantly over the race weekend and the weather may just throw in a surprise..!
k; ill even. ajprice said:
Early days but Monaco is cancelling out the Mercedes engine power, Renault engined Toro Rosso and Red Bull cars are all up there.
Hardly surprising though, its down to drivers, driveability and mechanical grip/high downforce work. The low speeds meed there is less need for outright power.we'll have to see what button can do but Alonso has surprised me
Nightmare, was looking forward to seeing some running but quite alot of rain now.
Have to find it funny that in the week everyone in F1 are talking about improving the "show" that we now have another one of those sessions where everyone is sat in the garage, i feel bad for the people that pay actual money to watch, its not that wet, its not been raining for a while now. Very frustrating
I mean, i do get it, i understand why they dont want to run in the wet especially around Monaco but it all looks kinda silly.
Have to find it funny that in the week everyone in F1 are talking about improving the "show" that we now have another one of those sessions where everyone is sat in the garage, i feel bad for the people that pay actual money to watch, its not that wet, its not been raining for a while now. Very frustrating
I mean, i do get it, i understand why they dont want to run in the wet especially around Monaco but it all looks kinda silly.
Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 21st May 14:08
Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 21st May 14:23
After practice today, here is a really wild notion, probably highly unrealistic but a notion nonetheless.
Let's set the scene for this. So Rosberg has won the last 2 Monaco GPs. A hat trick would not do his ego, confidence and reputation much harm. Lewis desperately wants to win Monaco following the shenanigans last year - perhaps moreso than Catalunya and wants to keep Rosberg's confidence as low as possible long term versus a small boost that a win in Spain could provide.
Drivers say that the final sector of the Catalunya GP is quite "Monagasque". So knowing that he will do well and maybe still win whatever he does on setup in Spain, could his side of the garage have focussed on getting the car right for that final section of the track in order to be fast out of the box today, and improve that setup during practice ensuring an advantage over Rosberg? I haven't looked at the comparative times from different Catalunya sectors at all and how Hamilton's may have changed over the weekend, just running my mind and keyboard blindly.
What would be more important to either of them, the win in Spain or the win in Monaco given the recent history between the two of them? There are all sorts of possibilities influencing that decision, but if I could take a clear advantage to Monaco to enable me to win whilst keeping the car off the barriers by driving at less than 100% compard to my team mate, I would risk a 2nd place in Spain.
It is not totally beyond the bounds of reality as the mind games are pretty important, and if Hamilton can break Rosberg's winning hat trick at Monaco in the same car, there is a mental advantage for him going forward - probably larger than beating him in Spain.
Wildly tinfoil hattish, but I thought I would throw the idle thought out there given the gap between them after P2.
Of course all of this depends on having an ability to hide some level of data from your team mate in the Merc team. I will now don my nomex... Flame away.
Let's set the scene for this. So Rosberg has won the last 2 Monaco GPs. A hat trick would not do his ego, confidence and reputation much harm. Lewis desperately wants to win Monaco following the shenanigans last year - perhaps moreso than Catalunya and wants to keep Rosberg's confidence as low as possible long term versus a small boost that a win in Spain could provide.
Drivers say that the final sector of the Catalunya GP is quite "Monagasque". So knowing that he will do well and maybe still win whatever he does on setup in Spain, could his side of the garage have focussed on getting the car right for that final section of the track in order to be fast out of the box today, and improve that setup during practice ensuring an advantage over Rosberg? I haven't looked at the comparative times from different Catalunya sectors at all and how Hamilton's may have changed over the weekend, just running my mind and keyboard blindly.
What would be more important to either of them, the win in Spain or the win in Monaco given the recent history between the two of them? There are all sorts of possibilities influencing that decision, but if I could take a clear advantage to Monaco to enable me to win whilst keeping the car off the barriers by driving at less than 100% compard to my team mate, I would risk a 2nd place in Spain.
It is not totally beyond the bounds of reality as the mind games are pretty important, and if Hamilton can break Rosberg's winning hat trick at Monaco in the same car, there is a mental advantage for him going forward - probably larger than beating him in Spain.
Wildly tinfoil hattish, but I thought I would throw the idle thought out there given the gap between them after P2.
Of course all of this depends on having an ability to hide some level of data from your team mate in the Merc team. I will now don my nomex... Flame away.
It seems Bernie and Her Majesty's tax collectors have fallen out.
It looks like HMRC have "torn up" the tax agreement with Bambino trust (the trust that benefits his ex wife and daughters). It's reported to be a consequence of Ecclestone's case and testimony in Germany last year.
Tax and interest is reportedly in excess of £1 billion.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-05-21/...
Blimey.
It looks like HMRC have "torn up" the tax agreement with Bambino trust (the trust that benefits his ex wife and daughters). It's reported to be a consequence of Ecclestone's case and testimony in Germany last year.
Tax and interest is reportedly in excess of £1 billion.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-05-21/...
Blimey.
It seems Bernie and Her Majesty's tax collectors have fallen out.
It looks like HMRC have "torn up" the tax agreement with Bambino trust (the trust that benefits his ex wife and daughters). It's reported to be a consequence of Ecclestone's case and testimony in Germany last year.
Tax and interest is reportedly in excess of £1 billion.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-05-21/...
Blimey.
It looks like HMRC have "torn up" the tax agreement with Bambino trust (the trust that benefits his ex wife and daughters). It's reported to be a consequence of Ecclestone's case and testimony in Germany last year.
Tax and interest is reportedly in excess of £1 billion.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-05-21/...
Blimey.
SeeFive, your idea has merit, but. . . . . . during the 2 day post race test at Barcelona, Rosberg did more than the equivalent of 2 GP's in laps, & beat his Saturday pole time on Tuesday.
Lewis went partying ? or had something more pressing, leaving their test driver to do Day2.
I think whatever HAM managed to do as regards optimising the set-up for Sector3/ Monaco during a normal GP weekend in Barcelona, will have been undone by the opportunity to concentrate on Sector 3 ROS gave himself by competing more than 130 laps during the test day.
Lewis went partying ? or had something more pressing, leaving their test driver to do Day2.
I think whatever HAM managed to do as regards optimising the set-up for Sector3/ Monaco during a normal GP weekend in Barcelona, will have been undone by the opportunity to concentrate on Sector 3 ROS gave himself by competing more than 130 laps during the test day.
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