The Official 2015 Monaco Grand Prix thread **SPOILERS**
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All this "Rosberg should not have celebrated" stuff is pure nonsense. Sure, he can acknowledge that Lewis did not deserve to lose, and that he was fastest all weekend, and he has done that publicly. So why not celebrate his luck, nobody got hurt.
ISTR a world championship getting won on the last corner in Brazil when a car had a tyre problem, gifting a necessary place to the guy that won the championship in the final metres of the season. There was no problem with him celebrating that win due to someone else's bad luck. No criticism here, I was happy for that result too.
Lewis knows he deserved the win at Monaco, had a problem outside of his influence and will set his mettle to repeat that high quality performance again and hope he gets better support from his team. Nico will get a boost knowing that he has won the last two GPs. It will be competitive, possibly ugly at times between them but that is he nature of needing to beat your team mate. And when you are in the best car, that is a big chance to write your name in the record books and achieve life goals with a WDC, making it all the more important.
I hope Lewis goes on to win the championship this year but feel this hatred from fans towards Nico is unnecessary. This is F1, not football so let's keep our decorum, sympathise with the unlucky guys and support our favourites without being overly tribal.
ISTR a world championship getting won on the last corner in Brazil when a car had a tyre problem, gifting a necessary place to the guy that won the championship in the final metres of the season. There was no problem with him celebrating that win due to someone else's bad luck. No criticism here, I was happy for that result too.
Lewis knows he deserved the win at Monaco, had a problem outside of his influence and will set his mettle to repeat that high quality performance again and hope he gets better support from his team. Nico will get a boost knowing that he has won the last two GPs. It will be competitive, possibly ugly at times between them but that is he nature of needing to beat your team mate. And when you are in the best car, that is a big chance to write your name in the record books and achieve life goals with a WDC, making it all the more important.
I hope Lewis goes on to win the championship this year but feel this hatred from fans towards Nico is unnecessary. This is F1, not football so let's keep our decorum, sympathise with the unlucky guys and support our favourites without being overly tribal.
SeeFive said:
All this "Rosberg should not have celebrated" stuff is pure nonsense. Sure, he can acknowledge that Lewis did not deserve to lose, and that he was fastest all weekend, and he has done that publicly. So why not celebrate his luck, nobody got hurt.
ISTR a world championship getting won on the last corner in Brazil when a car had a tyre problem, gifting a necessary place to the guy that won the championship in the final metres of the season. There was no problem with him celebrating that win due to someone else's bad luck. No criticism here, I was happy for that result too.
Lewis knows he deserved the win at Monaco, had a problem outside of his influence and will set his mettle to repeat that high quality performance again and hope he gets better support from his team. Nico will get a boost knowing that he has won the last two GPs. It will be competitive, possibly ugly at times between them but that is he nature of needing to beat your team mate. And when you are in the best car, that is a big chance to write your name in the record books and achieve life goals with a WDC, making it all the more important.
I hope Lewis goes on to win the championship this year but feel this hatred from fans towards Nico is unnecessary. This is F1, not football so let's keep our decorum, sympathise with the unlucky guys and support our favourites without being overly tribal.
Oh dear.ISTR a world championship getting won on the last corner in Brazil when a car had a tyre problem, gifting a necessary place to the guy that won the championship in the final metres of the season. There was no problem with him celebrating that win due to someone else's bad luck. No criticism here, I was happy for that result too.
Lewis knows he deserved the win at Monaco, had a problem outside of his influence and will set his mettle to repeat that high quality performance again and hope he gets better support from his team. Nico will get a boost knowing that he has won the last two GPs. It will be competitive, possibly ugly at times between them but that is he nature of needing to beat your team mate. And when you are in the best car, that is a big chance to write your name in the record books and achieve life goals with a WDC, making it all the more important.
I hope Lewis goes on to win the championship this year but feel this hatred from fans towards Nico is unnecessary. This is F1, not football so let's keep our decorum, sympathise with the unlucky guys and support our favourites without being overly tribal.
VladD said:
Oh dear.
Wow. That was even faster than I thought for someone to misinterpret some English and make it into a problem. The championship is won over an entire season, and Lewis deserved it that year IMHO. But for some Massa fans, the pain about that last corner is still as much in debate as Rosberg's qualifying in Monaco last year. We still hear people say that Massa was WDC for a while... Riiiiight.s
t happens in F1. Just roll with it, it will turn around one day if you are any good. And Lewis is among the best of the current crop of drivers.ajprice said:
Has anything else come out about the Verstappen/Grosjean crash, whether Grosjean did brake earlier than the laps before or not?
I've seen that Grosjean and Massa have stuck the boot in saying that he was dangerous, which is rich coming from them. I like Max, in the same way as Ricciardo last year and Hamilton when he started out. He's not in awe of anyone, and he'll have a go getting past them. Sticking with Vettel while he was lapping was a neat trick until Lotus cottoned on to what he was doing, and he's made some good overtakes in previous races. I hope he moves up to a higher team, there's a lot of potential there.
Maybe Lotus wouldn't have cottoned on to it so soon if Max hadn't announced his intentions over the radio?I've seen that Grosjean and Massa have stuck the boot in saying that he was dangerous, which is rich coming from them. I like Max, in the same way as Ricciardo last year and Hamilton when he started out. He's not in awe of anyone, and he'll have a go getting past them. Sticking with Vettel while he was lapping was a neat trick until Lotus cottoned on to what he was doing, and he's made some good overtakes in previous races. I hope he moves up to a higher team, there's a lot of potential there.
SeeFive said:
All this "Rosberg should not have celebrated" stuff is pure nonsense. Sure, he can acknowledge that Lewis did not deserve to lose, and that he was fastest all weekend, and he has done that publicly. So why not celebrate his luck, nobody got hurt.
ISTR a world championship getting won on the last corner in Brazil when a car had a tyre problem, gifting a necessary place to the guy that won the championship in the final metres of the season. There was no problem with him celebrating that win due to someone else's bad luck. No criticism here, I was happy for that result too.
Lewis knows he deserved the win at Monaco, had a problem outside of his influence and will set his mettle to repeat that high quality performance again and hope he gets better support from his team. Nico will get a boost knowing that he has won the last two GPs. It will be competitive, possibly ugly at times between them but that is he nature of needing to beat your team mate. And when you are in the best car, that is a big chance to write your name in the record books and achieve life goals with a WDC, making it all the more important.
I hope Lewis goes on to win the championship this year but feel this hatred from fans towards Nico is unnecessary. This is F1, not football so let's keep our decorum, sympathise with the unlucky guys and support our favourites without being overly tribal.
Finally, one of the grown-ups speak out. You won't make many friends on here talking sense, you know. ISTR a world championship getting won on the last corner in Brazil when a car had a tyre problem, gifting a necessary place to the guy that won the championship in the final metres of the season. There was no problem with him celebrating that win due to someone else's bad luck. No criticism here, I was happy for that result too.
Lewis knows he deserved the win at Monaco, had a problem outside of his influence and will set his mettle to repeat that high quality performance again and hope he gets better support from his team. Nico will get a boost knowing that he has won the last two GPs. It will be competitive, possibly ugly at times between them but that is he nature of needing to beat your team mate. And when you are in the best car, that is a big chance to write your name in the record books and achieve life goals with a WDC, making it all the more important.
I hope Lewis goes on to win the championship this year but feel this hatred from fans towards Nico is unnecessary. This is F1, not football so let's keep our decorum, sympathise with the unlucky guys and support our favourites without being overly tribal.
HTP99 said:
I always though that the Hamilton/Sherzinger (sp?) relationship was a bit odd; Hamilton looks younger than he is and Sherzinger had this air of sophistication about her that made her seem older than she was; she looked her age it's just she seemed older, they almost looked like a mother and her son, they just looked odd together.
you can bet MILF is his favorite category on redtubeSeeFive said:
VladD said:
Oh dear.
Wow. That was even faster than I thought for someone to misinterpret some English and make it into a problem. The championship is won over an entire season, and Lewis deserved it that year IMHO. But for some Massa fans, the pain about that last corner is still as much in debate as Rosberg's qualifying in Monaco last year. We still hear people say that Massa was WDC for a while... Riiiiight.s
t happens in F1. Just roll with it, it will turn around one day if you are any good. And Lewis is among the best of the current crop of drivers.VladD said:
Thanks. Very interesting.We were at the race and qualifying but a lot of the time you couldn't tell what was really going on. In the stand we were in for the race everyone around us was totally confused why Hamilton had dropped to 3rd. When it became clear that he'd pitted for tyres we were all amazed.
On the Saturday there were a bunch of glaswegians in the same stand as us, loudly cheering on Nico and booing Hamilton. So at least they were happy with the Sunday result, I guess.
It was good being there for the atmosphere etc but you are really much better informed and aware of everything if you stay at home and watch it on TV.
Gaz. said:
vonuber said:
g4ry13 said:
Nicole is a lot better looking (even if she's close to twice that girl's age). Nicole used to genuinely get quite into the races. Certainly looks like a downgrade to me.
I agree with that. Nicole is a damn fine looking woman for her age.I think the borderline hysteria around this result is getting a bit ridiculous now.......... this is F1, it is not as if nobody has ever 'lucked' into a win before now. This was not sabotage by the team it was just poor judgement - a situation that has to be balanced against all the good calls they have made in the last couple of years.
I mean if Lewis stayed out and Ferrari did pit and Vettel had made progress everybody would be screaming about how 'obvious' it was Merc should have covered Vettel with the massive lead they had.
I mean if Lewis stayed out and Ferrari did pit and Vettel had made progress everybody would be screaming about how 'obvious' it was Merc should have covered Vettel with the massive lead they had.
VolvoT5 said:
I mean if Lewis stayed out and Ferrari did pit and Vettel had made progress everybody would be screaming about how 'obvious' it was Merc should have covered Vettel with the massive lead they had.
Not really. I can't help but think that even with fresher tyres there would be some difficulty overtaking.. Actually in hindsight Lewis rather proved that.REALIST123 said:
I generally post a link to his article after every GP. It's an interesting read for some people. It's not compulsory.
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