Fans to be surveyed about the state of F1

Fans to be surveyed about the state of F1

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RobGT81

5,229 posts

186 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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Eric Mc said:
It does seem that they are assuming the fans AREN'T interested that much in the technology and are mainly interested in the "show".
Well they are probably correct, for the majority of F1 fans.

krallicious

4,312 posts

205 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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I had to laugh at the final picture after completeing the survey. A driver line up but with Mclaren's 3rd driver instead of Alonso hehe

007 VXR

64,187 posts

187 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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suffolk009 said:
I did the autosport survey this morning. I bet the F1 rulemakers ignore my wishes.
+1

thegreenhell

15,282 posts

219 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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krallicious said:
I had to laugh at the final picture after completeing the survey. A driver line up but with Mclaren's 3rd driver instead of Alonso hehe
Wasn't that the official driver photograph for the season, taken on the grid in Australia? Hence missing Alonso and Bottas.

krallicious

4,312 posts

205 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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thegreenhell said:
Wasn't that the official driver photograph for the season, taken on the grid in Australia? Hence missing Alonso and Bottas.
yes still amusing though.

Eric Mc

121,958 posts

265 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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RobGT81 said:
Eric Mc said:
It does seem that they are assuming the fans AREN'T interested that much in the technology and are mainly interested in the "show".
Well they are probably correct, for the majority of F1 fans.
I'm not that convinced about that. Anybody I know who follows F1 seems to be quite well versed in the details. I've yet to meet anyone who only watches F1 on a "nothing better to do basis".

StevieBee

12,861 posts

255 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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The fact that they are asking fans what to do about the sport is IMO, indicative of the disconnect that exists between the sport and the real world. I can't think of any other major sport where the fans are given this degree of direct influence over that sport's future.

They've done it before and the most common outcome then was that we wanted more overtaking. The result? DRS. Yes, more overtaking but the wrong type of overtaking. What we wanted was more mechanical grip and much less aero.

Questions are one thing. It's the interpretation of them that's key and I fear that there is not capacity amongst the sport to do this properly.




jbudgie

8,906 posts

212 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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mattikake said:
Back up. Spent a good 30 mins getting right to the end and the submission page doesn't appear to work! Argh!
Same here.

furious

davepoth

29,395 posts

199 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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Vaud said:
350Matt said:
I'd mandate a downforce limit say 1.5 tonnes and say you can achieve it anyway you like

with the proviso that cars must be able to follow each other in order to gain an aerodynamic 'tow'
And how would you measure that?
Fairly easily - Bung the car in a wind tunnel or a model of it into a computer programme, stick a spec front wing the equivalent of 50m behind it, and ensure that the spec wing is able to produce 95% (or whatever a suitable number is) of the clear air downforce when it's behind the car.

Vaud

50,424 posts

155 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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davepoth said:
Fairly easily - Bung the car in a wind tunnel or a model of it into a computer programme, stick a spec front wing the equivalent of 50m behind it, and ensure that the spec wing is able to produce 95% (or whatever a suitable number is) of the clear air downforce when it's behind the car.
Which wind tunnel? Whose calibration? etc. What about downforce in bends? What does the airflow look like across different bends?

Sorry, I don't think it works, though I understand the aspiration.

jp7152

161 posts

223 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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I noticed there were quite a lot of questions about viewing the race online.

I wonder if later they will say something about TV viewers being lower but internet viewers more than making up for them?

stemll

4,088 posts

200 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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jbudgie said:
mattikake said:
Back up. Spent a good 30 mins getting right to the end and the submission page doesn't appear to work! Argh!
Same here.

furious
Yep. Got to the 94% complete page then the next page was the start. Sod it, not filling all that in again

stemll

4,088 posts

200 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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jbudgie said:
mattikake said:
Back up. Spent a good 30 mins getting right to the end and the submission page doesn't appear to work! Argh!
Same here.

furious
Yep. Got to the 94% complete page then the next page was the start. Sod it, not filling all that in again

Walford

2,259 posts

166 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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stemll said:
jbudgie said:
mattikake said:
Back up. Spent a good 30 mins getting right to the end and the submission page doesn't appear to work! Argh!
Same here.

furious
Yep. Got to the 94% complete page then the next page was the start. Sod it, not filling all that in again
are Pirelli running the page,

DJRC

23,563 posts

236 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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This thread alone demonstrates why fans should never be given a say in...well...anything frankly.

rscott

14,719 posts

191 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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InfamousKeiran said:
funkyrobot said:
The celebrity and perception of F1 questions were strange. I thought fans were being consulted on thoughts about F1 and the racing, not on whether or not we need more celebs involved.
As for the question about a randomised sprinkler system in place to make it a wet race! rolleyes
Presumably that's so they can tell Bernie that yet another of his ideas is stupid (along with his plan for a customer chassis with an old V8 in it)

JustinF

6,795 posts

203 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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8. You said you watch Formula One Grand Prix races on TV. When you watch a race, how much of it do you typically watch? *This question is required.
The entire race from beginning to end
The entire race including preview and post-race analytics
I watch the start and the end of the race
I watch just the start of the race
I watch the start and keep watching until it gets boring
Only watch highlights of race

No option for build up and race but not the post-race...

RYH64E

7,960 posts

244 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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JustinF said:
8. You said you watch Formula One Grand Prix races on TV. When you watch a race, how much of it do you typically watch? *This question is required.
The entire race from beginning to end
The entire race including preview and post-race analytics
I watch the start and the end of the race
I watch just the start of the race
I watch the start and keep watching until it gets boring
Only watch highlights of race

No option for build up and race but not the post-race...
No option either for 'Sky Plus it, watch the start then use the FF function as required', that's what I tend to do nowadays.

Slaav

4,250 posts

210 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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Quick question/s....

Why is there so much overtaking in Superbikes/Moto GP etc when there isn't in F1?

A huge part of it I think is Aero but also, the width of the bike vs track width vs F1? With soooo much room, you could plan ahead and take a hugely different line into a corner and still cream it coming out? Undertaking and overtaking is common place on EVERY lap?

The true racing line in F1 is so important that there are far fewer options IMHO. go off line and you are in crap and so compromised as the exit is also so narrow that again, your power delivery becomes compromised?

Double the width of the tracks and design accordingly and I am pretty certain we would get spectacular racing and action.

MissChief

7,101 posts

168 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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Slaav said:
Quick question/s....

Why is there so much overtaking in Superbikes/Moto GP etc when there isn't in F1?

A huge part of it I think is Aero but also, the width of the bike vs track width vs F1? With soooo much room, you could plan ahead and take a hugely different line into a corner and still cream it coming out? Undertaking and overtaking is common place on EVERY lap?

The true racing line in F1 is so important that there are far fewer options IMHO. go off line and you are in crap and so compromised as the exit is also so narrow that again, your power delivery becomes compromised?

Double the width of the tracks and design accordingly and I am pretty certain we would get spectacular racing and action.
Because a bike is about 20% of the width of a F1 car and there are about five different lines you can take on a bike without losing a lot of time but a car really only has one line.

Wider tracks won't matter, there will still be one fastest line.