Fans to be surveyed about the state of F1
Discussion
caduceus said:
+1
That's why Monster trucks and Drag racing exist.The loudness of previous F1 cars has actually masked the lack of action IMO. The new cars sound interesting to me, but the racing is now too complex compared to the raw exciting past, hence why many fans just want the loudness back.
When I rediscover old F1 on youtube, the body language of the cars is more impressive to me than the volume levels. The sparks looked purposeful on cars where the whole floors were scraping on the ground, but stupid coming off the plank on today's high ride heights.
Here's a good test, watch 60s and 70s F1 cars with no sound then today's cars with no sound. We're being led into it being exciting by the tone of voices and build up from the commentators. After the first few laps it's like Friday practice.
I watched the 1965 Monaco GP on you tube the other day (the actual black and white TV footage) and what is so noticeable is the amount of movement in the cars of that era - they twitch, squirrel about, dive under braking, squat on acceleration, slide into and out of corners.
They are no doubt slower than modern F1 cars (even the current hobbled ones), but they LOOK far more dynamic and difficult to drive.
If you watch the 1968 race, you will see even more of this as by then the BHP had been doubled.
This proves that it isn't just noise and/or overtaking that matters - it's how dramatic the cars look.
The problem with modern era cars is that they are too good.
They are no doubt slower than modern F1 cars (even the current hobbled ones), but they LOOK far more dynamic and difficult to drive.
If you watch the 1968 race, you will see even more of this as by then the BHP had been doubled.
This proves that it isn't just noise and/or overtaking that matters - it's how dramatic the cars look.
The problem with modern era cars is that they are too good.
IanRubie said:
No, I don't see any of the current circuits as being essential to keep. It would not matter to me if Silverstone or Spa or Monaco dropped off the calendar as long as the track that replaced them had the opportunity for close racing and overtaking. I don't have the historic sentimentality that some others do.
The drivers themselves praise Spa and Silverstone, it's not about nostalgia. Edited by IanRubie on Friday 22 May 10:56
I wouldn't confuse nostalgia with heritage- and we lose that at our peril. GP racing is essentially a European sport and the more that fact is forgotten by chasing dodgy oligarch's money on dodgy circuits in countries nobody has ever heard of the more the sport is destroying what made it great in the first place. Spa, Monaco , Silverstone and Monza are part of the sport's DNA .
But tragically most people who watch F1 do so only on TV and very few of them seem to know much , still less care about the rest of motor sport .Thanks to the sport being pimped around to the highest bidder the TV tail is now waving the sport dog - wrong way round. And if we lose a few 'fans ' who never watch motor sport live but spend too much time on their sofas in front of big tellies I won't lose too much sleep.
But tragically most people who watch F1 do so only on TV and very few of them seem to know much , still less care about the rest of motor sport .Thanks to the sport being pimped around to the highest bidder the TV tail is now waving the sport dog - wrong way round. And if we lose a few 'fans ' who never watch motor sport live but spend too much time on their sofas in front of big tellies I won't lose too much sleep.
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