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Ferrari are said to be bringing a significant engine upgrade to Canada.
James Allen said:
Canada is the next round and, according to Gazetta, Ferrari will have a significant upgrade on the engine, which is believed to have used up half their remaining development ‘tokens’. Canada is a race which Ferrari has always traditionally targeted for upgrades over the years.
This will be the team’s third power unit this season, with the target to use a fourth for Monza and then rotate engines for the rest of the season. A fifth may be needed – or may be tactically employed – at a race where it is easy to overtake to compensate for the ten place grid penalty a completely new unit demands.
This will be the team’s third power unit this season, with the target to use a fourth for Monza and then rotate engines for the rest of the season. A fifth may be needed – or may be tactically employed – at a race where it is easy to overtake to compensate for the ten place grid penalty a completely new unit demands.
thegreenhell said:
Ferrari are said to be bringing a significant engine upgrade to Canada.
Arrivabene told journos at Monaco that the upgrade wasn't going to Canada.James Allen said:
Canada is the next round and, according to Gazetta, Ferrari will have a significant upgrade on the engine, which is believed to have used up half their remaining development ‘tokens’. Canada is a race which Ferrari has always traditionally targeted for upgrades over the years.
This will be the team’s third power unit this season, with the target to use a fourth for Monza and then rotate engines for the rest of the season. A fifth may be needed – or may be tactically employed – at a race where it is easy to overtake to compensate for the ten place grid penalty a completely new unit demands.
This will be the team’s third power unit this season, with the target to use a fourth for Monza and then rotate engines for the rest of the season. A fifth may be needed – or may be tactically employed – at a race where it is easy to overtake to compensate for the ten place grid penalty a completely new unit demands.
This might or might not have something to do with the FIA suggesting they are going to tighten up on the "safety upgrade" loophole that has been exploited for some years now.
Mr_Thyroid said:
Could be a good track for Ferrari:
Heavy braking - Mercedes have a history of brake problems.
Abrasive surface - Ferrari are easier on their tyres.
Both great points. Not sure how easy Ferrari will be on their rear tyres if they have the mooted 40-60 hp gain from the engine upgrades though.Heavy braking - Mercedes have a history of brake problems.
Abrasive surface - Ferrari are easier on their tyres.
IainT said:
Both great points. Not sure how easy Ferrari will be on their rear tyres if they have the mooted 40-60 hp gain from the engine upgrades though.
But it isn't about the power - it's about how it is applied, throttle response, etc. Increased HP doesn't necessarily equate to increased tyre wear. Vaud said:
IainT said:
Both great points. Not sure how easy Ferrari will be on their rear tyres if they have the mooted 40-60 hp gain from the engine upgrades though.
But it isn't about the power - it's about how it is applied, throttle response, etc. Increased HP doesn't necessarily equate to increased tyre wear. Note I didn't state that they would be harder on their rears, just that it's not a given. The gap between them and Merc on tyre wear isn't that large at the kind of track temps we'll see in Canada.
ash73 said:
Crafty_ said:
Ferrari are not bringing an engine upgrade to Canada.
Are you sure Arrivabene is telling the truth...?Just read on Autosport that Williams are taking an upgrade to Canada and then a bigger one to Austria.
So, with Ferrari delaying their engine upgrade can Williams catch them ? I think Canada will suit the Williams, fast track, lots of breaking, a fairly low downforce track, but we know the Ferrari is good, so will not be a walkover.
Clearly its going to hurt Red Bull and McLaren. I assume that the recent upgrades Red Bull have made will keep them ahead of STR?
Far as the Mercs go, I don't think Ferrari will be quick enough to catch them. Psychological battle between the drivers, tense time in the garage too - they've got to be clever enough to adapt strategy as the race progresses, if they become too rigid and unable to make decisions quickly they'll throw away another one. This will be important if there is rain.
Lewis has won here 3 times, Nico never quite managed it (yet).
ETA: Merc bringing an upgraded engine to Canada. Presumably to combat the Ferrari upgrade that has now been delayed? http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/9869288/me...
Be interesting to see which Merc runners use a new engine here
So, with Ferrari delaying their engine upgrade can Williams catch them ? I think Canada will suit the Williams, fast track, lots of breaking, a fairly low downforce track, but we know the Ferrari is good, so will not be a walkover.
Clearly its going to hurt Red Bull and McLaren. I assume that the recent upgrades Red Bull have made will keep them ahead of STR?
Far as the Mercs go, I don't think Ferrari will be quick enough to catch them. Psychological battle between the drivers, tense time in the garage too - they've got to be clever enough to adapt strategy as the race progresses, if they become too rigid and unable to make decisions quickly they'll throw away another one. This will be important if there is rain.
Lewis has won here 3 times, Nico never quite managed it (yet).
ETA: Merc bringing an upgraded engine to Canada. Presumably to combat the Ferrari upgrade that has now been delayed? http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/9869288/me...
Be interesting to see which Merc runners use a new engine here
Edited by Crafty_ on Friday 29th May 22:11
Yes, so he gets screwed..
If Ferrari run a new version isn't Kimi in the same boat ? Could be why they are delaying (if they are) ?
ETA: Merc have also now done a u-turn, Canada engines to have reliability improvements only. http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/mercedes-holds-f...
If Ferrari run a new version isn't Kimi in the same boat ? Could be why they are delaying (if they are) ?
ETA: Merc have also now done a u-turn, Canada engines to have reliability improvements only. http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/mercedes-holds-f...
Edited by Crafty_ on Saturday 30th May 13:32
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/119270...
So Ferrari and Honda are bringing a new PU spec to Canada then.
Why the secrecy by Ferrari if Uncle Charlie just issues a directive to all teams informing of token usage? I don't get it.
So Ferrari and Honda are bringing a new PU spec to Canada then.
Why the secrecy by Ferrari if Uncle Charlie just issues a directive to all teams informing of token usage? I don't get it.
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/119303
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/119303
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