What F1 should be, in my view. How can we get this back?
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They just need to cut way back on the aero IMO both front wing and down force. Someone mentioned earlier having a one piece front wing-brilliant idea.
This will allow cars to get closer and overtake without destroying their tyres. Look at superbikes (no aero) and look at F1 before aero, much more interesting.
This will allow cars to get closer and overtake without destroying their tyres. Look at superbikes (no aero) and look at F1 before aero, much more interesting.
Ayahuasca said:
Take away all spoilers and airfoils, so less dirty air preventing overtaking
De-restrict tyres completely, so more mechanical grip replacing downforce for to maintain high corner speeds
Allow teams to run chassis that they haven't built, so allowing privateer entrants
Allow teams to use any engine they like, so allowing massively powerful motors.
Result - exciting racing.
And by the way, F1 has gone 'backwards' before - remember adaptive suspension, traction control, ground effect fans, etc. All very high tech stuff. All banned.
Sorry I didn't see this and completely repeated what you said here in my post above.De-restrict tyres completely, so more mechanical grip replacing downforce for to maintain high corner speeds
Allow teams to run chassis that they haven't built, so allowing privateer entrants
Allow teams to use any engine they like, so allowing massively powerful motors.
Result - exciting racing.
And by the way, F1 has gone 'backwards' before - remember adaptive suspension, traction control, ground effect fans, etc. All very high tech stuff. All banned.
Idea - don't play around with the technical regs. any more, control the spending - but not through hard limits.
Put in place a rule that no team can spend more than 10% (or some other sensible figure) more than any other team. If a team wants to spend a lot, they have to arrange for teams without that level of funding to either get hold of the cash or be given the equivalent in development support by the richer teams.
Effect - either spending by the rich teams drops, reducing the performance gap by limiting their ability to exploit technology, or the poorer teams improve thanks to the donated assistance/cash.
(I know, I know - it wouldn't work. Politics would get in the way - but it would be great if it could happen. Hints of a return to the days when teams were sporting first and businesses 5th or 6th
Put in place a rule that no team can spend more than 10% (or some other sensible figure) more than any other team. If a team wants to spend a lot, they have to arrange for teams without that level of funding to either get hold of the cash or be given the equivalent in development support by the richer teams.
Effect - either spending by the rich teams drops, reducing the performance gap by limiting their ability to exploit technology, or the poorer teams improve thanks to the donated assistance/cash.
(I know, I know - it wouldn't work. Politics would get in the way - but it would be great if it could happen. Hints of a return to the days when teams were sporting first and businesses 5th or 6th
Also, it would be impossible to police. All a "team" has to do is set up multiple companies to handle different aspects of what they do - some based in overseas tax havens. Some teams already operate this way. Getting access to financial records to scrutinise who is spending how much on what would be a nightmare.
There are 3 things that I think will help.
1) I'd make every team fill the tanks with the 100 litres at the start of each race, that would be the end of lift & coast.
2) Bring the noise back when you listen to the old 1.5 Turbos they sounded great if they sound fast then that makes a better show (it's one of the reasons I enjoy V8 Supercars compared to BTCC) once you have the sound then Use cameras that better portray the speed that the cars are doing.
3) Use camera's that portray the speed better at times they look like they're only doing 70mph if you show the speed along with the noise then they will be better to watch.
1) I'd make every team fill the tanks with the 100 litres at the start of each race, that would be the end of lift & coast.
2) Bring the noise back when you listen to the old 1.5 Turbos they sounded great if they sound fast then that makes a better show (it's one of the reasons I enjoy V8 Supercars compared to BTCC) once you have the sound then Use cameras that better portray the speed that the cars are doing.
3) Use camera's that portray the speed better at times they look like they're only doing 70mph if you show the speed along with the noise then they will be better to watch.
ZX10R NIN said:
There are 3 things that I think will help.
1) I'd make every team fill the tanks with the 100 litres at the start of each race, that would be the end of lift & coast.
I'd suggested this earlier and it was pointed out that the teams would just run a max fuel map for the first few laps to burn off what they consider unnecessary fuel to reduce the weight.1) I'd make every team fill the tanks with the 100 litres at the start of each race, that would be the end of lift & coast.
Overtaking is what we want!
How do we improve that?
Allow DRS to be used anywhere, that makes it much more a game of chess rather than waiting just for the safe long straight.
Id like to see more powerful engines, slightly less down force and slightly wider tyres. I also would think just two tyre compounds that have more performance difference would be better, and perhaps a rule that states you need to run 2 lots of the slower tyre.
This would make strategy much harder to work out and the races less predictable.
the rest of it is absolutely fine.
How do we improve that?
Allow DRS to be used anywhere, that makes it much more a game of chess rather than waiting just for the safe long straight.
Id like to see more powerful engines, slightly less down force and slightly wider tyres. I also would think just two tyre compounds that have more performance difference would be better, and perhaps a rule that states you need to run 2 lots of the slower tyre.
This would make strategy much harder to work out and the races less predictable.
the rest of it is absolutely fine.
rscott said:
ZX10R NIN said:
There are 3 things that I think will help.
1) I'd make every team fill the tanks with the 100 litres at the start of each race, that would be the end of lift & coast.
I'd suggested this earlier and it was pointed out that the teams would just run a max fuel map for the first few laps to burn off what they consider unnecessary fuel to reduce the weight.1) I'd make every team fill the tanks with the 100 litres at the start of each race, that would be the end of lift & coast.
rscott said:
ZX10R NIN said:
There are 3 things that I think will help.
1) I'd make every team fill the tanks with the 100 litres at the start of each race, that would be the end of lift & coast.
I'd suggested this earlier and it was pointed out that the teams would just run a max fuel map for the first few laps to burn off what they consider unnecessary fuel to reduce the weight.1) I'd make every team fill the tanks with the 100 litres at the start of each race, that would be the end of lift & coast.
MartG said:
rscott said:
ZX10R NIN said:
There are 3 things that I think will help.
1) I'd make every team fill the tanks with the 100 litres at the start of each race, that would be the end of lift & coast.
I'd suggested this earlier and it was pointed out that the teams would just run a max fuel map for the first few laps to burn off what they consider unnecessary fuel to reduce the weight.1) I'd make every team fill the tanks with the 100 litres at the start of each race, that would be the end of lift & coast.
Mr_Thyroid said:
Nope, don't like it. This is one of the things people hate about F1 at the moment - "the FIA monitor fuel flow", "average to be fairly constant during the race" - sounds boring to me. Unnecessary homogenisation.
They monitor the fuel already so it's no different to what they do now, do you like the lift & coast we have now?Gassing Station | Formula 1 | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff