The Official 2015 British Grand Prix thread **SPOILERS**

The Official 2015 British Grand Prix thread **SPOILERS**

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JonRB

74,581 posts

272 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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Rick_1138 said:
Gaz. said:
Ted vs Smedley is painful to watch.
Yep, cringing through all of that.
Awwwwwkward.

"mate"

JonRB

74,581 posts

272 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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Mr_Thyroid said:
superkartracer said:
This pitstop lark spoilt it for me.
Ah back in the days when girls were prettier, music had a tune, smoking was healthy and F1 didn't have pit stops.

(it's always been like this)
It's called "confirmation bias". superkartracer watched the race today in order to confirm that F1 was rubbish these days and, unsurprisingly, confirmed what he wanted to confirm. Then had to reinforce that by telling those of us who enjoyed the race today that we have low standards.

smile

DJRC

23,563 posts

236 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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Mr_Thyroid said:
DJRC said:
Mr_Thyroid said:
In a way the rain saved Williams from the embarrassment of throwing away a race win - if they had been willing to manage their drivers and it had stayed dry they could've won.
No, they couldn't. Lewis always had a second in half effectively in clean air on them. Not just that but if Williams had stopped VB earlier than Lewis who stopped first, they would have dropped him into traffic and ruined the plan. Same for Massa. If they had told Massa to let VB through then...well you are into a very different argument and as VB told us he had once chance to do the job and that was it. After that once chance into Club was gone, Massa had him covered every lap.

Hamilton torched the in-lap and then torched the out lap and was quite comfortably gone by the time Ros and the Williams had cycled through the pitsfic.
Hamilton didn't come out in traffic, so why would a car running ahead of him at the time come out in traffic?

{whisper}Massa is a good driver. Bottas is not the only Williams driver.{whisper}
OK, once again for the hard of understanding...Hamilton torched the in lap and torched the outlap. He was quickest in every sector. He came out at the end of the stops a cpl of seconds ahead. He had pace in clean air the Williams didn't have. So if the Williams had stopped their guys a lap earlier - it would have been traffic.

Williams were never going to win the race on pace alone no matter which way you want to slice it.

Leithen

10,906 posts

267 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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Cracking race. I thought Hamilton drove a very level headed race and If he was a bit lucky with his second pitstop timing, it was deserved. Sometimes you really do make your own luck.

Would have loved to have seen how the middle of the race panned out had Williams managed to pit one of their cars earlier and before Hamilton. Had there been clear air for the pitting car to slot back into, in theory they ought to have kept that car in the lead after the first round of pit stops.

They just don't have the downforce for wet running though, so I doubt the overall result would have changed.

MiniMan64

16,930 posts

190 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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Ignoring the rain for a sec I wonder how different the result would have been today if Williams had released Bottas?

007 VXR

64,187 posts

187 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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MiniMan64 said:
Ignoring the rain for a sec I wonder how different the result would have been today if Williams had released Bottas?
This ^^^^^^^^

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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samvia said:
Have Sky asked Ted to be more like Kay Burley or something, and prod people into getting frustrated with him?
He was quite right to since Smedley was trying to worm his way out of what occurred. It was a nice touch to do the interview with Bottas straight after so he contradicted what Smedley said.

vonuber

17,868 posts

165 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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Mr_Thyroid said:
No, this is a good thing. What a boring race it would've been if they'd been able to overtake after a few laps. If the quickest car always wins what is the point in watching.
The quickest car does generally always win. The result today was never really in doubt - all it took was Hamilton to have one lap of clean air and the race was effectively over. The same would have been true if Rosberg had pitted first.

whoami

13,151 posts

240 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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La Liga said:
samvia said:
Have Sky asked Ted to be more like Kay Burley or something, and prod people into getting frustrated with him?
He was quite right to since Smedley was trying to worm his way out of what occurred. It was a nice touch to do the interview with Bottas straight after so he contradicted what Smedley said.
Indeed.

The cringe was caused entirely by Smedley (who is a grumpy sod at the best of times) trying to re-write history.

Smollet

10,596 posts

190 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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Mr_Thyroid said:
Ah back in the days when girls were prettier, music had a tune, smoking was healthy and F1 didn't have pit stops.

(it's always been like this)
Basically yes. Seem to recall lots of good races in them there olden days when there were no pit stops. People just raced from start to finish. That sort of thing.

BBS-LM

3,972 posts

224 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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Great race, really was not expecting it, good to see Williams take it to Mercedes at the start, and then the weather play a part at the end, so good. Really wished I was at Silverstone today, it's one to remember.

Dr Z

3,396 posts

171 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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A Mercedes win was never really in doubt today, though it was apparent that if the Mercs couldn't get past the Williams on a dry track, nothing else will. Kind of answers some questions over why the Ferrais got stuck behind them in some of the previous races. Congrats to Lewis. Lucked into that one. tongue outtongue outtongue out

I don't believe Williams have made a genuine step forward, although I'll follow the next three races with interest, if they could continue to show the kind of pace they showed today relative to Ferrari. Driver of the day was Kyvat for me.

Ahonen

5,016 posts

279 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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Smollet said:
Mr_Thyroid said:
Ah back in the days when girls were prettier, music had a tune, smoking was healthy and F1 didn't have pit stops.

(it's always been like this)
Basically yes. Seem to recall lots of good races in them there olden days when there were no pit stops. People just raced from start to finish. That sort of thing.
It's a while since there were no pit stops at all in F1 races.

rdjohn

6,185 posts

195 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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Silverstone of old used to be a shed, in terms of infrastructure, but now I think that it is possibly the best on the calendar.

No Mickey-Mouse chicanes, decent straights, some really awesome corners, plus Becketts.

dr_gn

16,166 posts

184 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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rdjohn said:
Silverstone of old used to be a shed, in terms of infrastructure, but now I think that it is possibly the best on the calendar.

No Mickey-Mouse chicanes, decent straights, some really awesome corners, plus Becketts.
From the air, it's a complete mess, but I guess at least it's an identifiable mess. You've a job to see where the track starts and the multitude of corners, run-off areas and random bits of old tarmac end. As for the "wing" hehe

Pooh

3,692 posts

253 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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Great race, very exciting and I was delighted with the result.
Did anybody else notice how rude Nico was to Frankie in the interviews, Frankie asked him a question and Nico completely turned his back on him and addressed his answer to the crowd. In contrast both Lewis and Seb addressed their answers to Frankie.

Hungrymc

6,669 posts

137 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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ash73 said:
Not a bad race, Lewis made a complete hash of the restart behind Massa and it was exciting seeing the Williams out front, but they should have let Bottas through and got Massa to back up the Mercs. They need someone in the second car who is willing to work for the team. Lewis was saved from a charging Nico by the final stop, jammy so and so.
Nico won't be at all happy, he looked to have this weekend sorted out.

But the spell before intermediates when Nico was catching rapidly, I think Lewis was being very cautious and was focused on using the lead he had built to be cautious and time his stop. And then on Inters, Nico didn't make any progress.


Fishtigua

9,786 posts

195 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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This is the point I turn off the PH F1 thread.

All we'll get is the next 5 day of petty snipes and a big plop of how it was all better in my day.

We've got the Top Gear thread for that.

Enjoy it or shut up.

That was the best race of the year ( not saying much). 'Nuff said.

Smollet

10,596 posts

190 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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Ahonen said:
It's a while since there were no pit stops at all in F1 races.
True but then I've been around for quite a while. wink

Exige77

6,518 posts

191 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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Good race. Enjoyed it.

Happy for Lewis