The Official 2015 British Grand Prix thread **SPOILERS**
Discussion
johnfm said:
. If you are British, not supporting a British driver is a bit odd.
Really?There are some British drivers I liked, Herbert and Hunt in particular, but why would you support anyone just because of their nationality?
I supported drivers because I enjoyed watching them drive/race (Ronnie Peterson, Jacky Ickx, Manfred Winkelhock) or had seen them in junior formula and followed their careers Herbert/Senna. In Herberts case from Karting up, and Sennas from FF1600
JonRB said:
Vaud said:
Eric Mc said:
Or perhaps raised some semblance of patriotism for one's own country - something we are pretty poor at here and maybe something we could learn from the Americans.
I have no issue with the anthem being sung.I do have issue when the right words and pronunciation are not used...
That's nothing to do with patriotism and everything to do with getting it bloody right.
They could have got Lord March's sister to sing it.
monamimate said:
Like his "behaviour" after the race... he just came second, again... do you expect a top F1 driver to do a dance of joy then?
No, I don't expect him to be happy, but how about an honourable handshake and genuine congratulations - not sulking in the corner like a f*cking mardy kid.Could you imagine Fangio, Clark or Moss displaying such (and I'm gonna sound like a right old tw*t here) ungentlemanly demeanour after coming second! (not last, fifth or sixth!) in a GP...? Me neither.
superkartracer said:
the race was boring , save the start.
No it wasn't. Not quite Bahrain 2014 but far from boring. Even the lack of overtakes in the top 4 with Williams 1st and 2nd wasn't a boring procession - there was constant excitement, partially aided by DRS.Wondering if Hamilton was going to get a good pit stop, where he'd come out on track, Rosberg vs Bottas, Bottas vs Massa... Then rain to spice it all up at the end and add some jeopardy to what looked like a certain result - a chance for the teams, engineers and strategists to make a call that wins or loses the race.
Definitely not boring.
lbc said:
JonRB said:
Why do we need to copy the Americans? We have our own culture, our own history, our own way of doing things, and it pre-dates theirs. We almost invented "Pomp and Ceremony". 
I quite enjoyed Alisha Dixon singing the national anthem.
Cobnapint said:
monamimate said:
Like his "behaviour" after the race... he just came second, again... do you expect a top F1 driver to do a dance of joy then?
No, I don't expect him to be happy, but how about an honourable handshake and genuine congratulations - not sulking in the corner like a f*cking mardy kid.Could you imagine Fangio, Clark or Moss displaying such (and I'm gonna sound like a right old tw*t here) ungentlemanly demeanour after coming second! (not last, fifth or sixth!) in a GP...? Me neither.
And for what it's worth, my parents knew Moss in the 50s and yes, he would probably have been lacking in the gentlemanly demeanour (rude and arrogant was how they described him, and dull according to the other drivers...)
By the standards of the 1950s, Moss might have appeared dull - especially when you consider the "playboy" attitude of many of his contemporaries. But often the really successful sportsmen are that little bit less "carefree" than those who seem more capable of enjoying themselves. And that holds true for any era.
NailedOn said:
I agree. Tactics.
IE correct tyre choice, and faster pit crews.
Racing Jim, but not as we knew it.
Bear with me, I'm just a nostalgic old duffer.
That's a picture of a British driver winning simply because he has a better car.IE correct tyre choice, and faster pit crews.
Racing Jim, but not as we knew it.
Bear with me, I'm just a nostalgic old duffer.
You don't honestly think Mansell was better than Senna, do you?
At least yesterday we had the best driver winning in the best car, which is perhaps how it should be.
ash73 said:
Just catching up on all the interviews, RD calling Eddie Jordan a village idiot is a disgrace imo. Rob Smedley coming across very poorly in his interview with Ted, too.
Lewis a bit more vocal about his involvement in the strategy call than he was in Monaco
That's the second time I've seen him dive into the pits with Nico bearing down on him, I think Malaysia was the other one.
Anyhow, inspired call this time round, and Nico honest to say he thought Lewis got it wrong, when I eventually found his interview; all the web sites are wall-to-wall Hamilton.
risky business mentioning Monaco & Nico in the same post if you ask me Lewis a bit more vocal about his involvement in the strategy call than he was in Monaco
That's the second time I've seen him dive into the pits with Nico bearing down on him, I think Malaysia was the other one.Anyhow, inspired call this time round, and Nico honest to say he thought Lewis got it wrong, when I eventually found his interview; all the web sites are wall-to-wall Hamilton.
heebeegeetee said:
That's a picture of a British driver winning simply because he has a better car.
You don't honestly think Mansell was better than Senna, do you?
At least yesterday we had the best driver winning in the best car, which is perhaps how it should be.
Conditions were tricky, and changeable throughout the race that day. The Williams when working in 91 was the class of the field, as it proved in 92.You don't honestly think Mansell was better than Senna, do you?
At least yesterday we had the best driver winning in the best car, which is perhaps how it should be.
I thought yesterdays race was ok, I find it hard to get my head round the newer layout of Silverstone despite only having been there in April. I'm guessing you had to be there and witness the win, the cars still sound utterly dreadful compared to a couple of years back.
Eric Mc said:
By the standards of the 1950s, Moss might have appeared dull - especially when you consider the "playboy" attitude of many of his contemporaries. But often the really successful sportsmen are that little bit less "carefree" than those who seem more capable of enjoying themselves. And that holds true for any era.
Yet Moss would have you believe the first thing he did the evening after a race was "chase crumpet" ...Cobnapint said:
Yeah, my missus noticed it, asking me why the tw*t was talking to the crowd.
That's what Nico does - rude. Did you see his body language in the towelling down room after the race. You could FEEL the hate oozing from him as Lewis walked in. Seb shook Lewis's hand and congratulated him - Nico just sat in the corner with his bottle of water and didn't move until Lewis leant in his direction for the hand shake.
To say Nico can't stand Lewis (and vice-versa) is an understatement. Lewis just hides it better.
Seb has really grown on me to be honest, I must admit I found him slightly annoying in the Red Bull, probably unfairly, but not simply because he was winning and Lewis wasn't.That's what Nico does - rude. Did you see his body language in the towelling down room after the race. You could FEEL the hate oozing from him as Lewis walked in. Seb shook Lewis's hand and congratulated him - Nico just sat in the corner with his bottle of water and didn't move until Lewis leant in his direction for the hand shake.
To say Nico can't stand Lewis (and vice-versa) is an understatement. Lewis just hides it better.
But this season he's been more likeable in interviews and out of the car, despite not leading the field in the Ferrari, he seems to be having fun, and his radio comms and body language after yesterdays race reflected this I feel, he seemed genuinely happy to get that 3rd place.
Nico just looks like a child that's had his favourite toy taken away.
RichB said:
Eric Mc said:
By the standards of the 1950s, Moss might have appeared dull - especially when you consider the "playboy" attitude of many of his contemporaries. But often the really successful sportsmen are that little bit less "carefree" than those who seem more capable of enjoying themselves. And that holds true for any era.
Yet Moss would have you believe the first thing he did the evening after a race was "chase crumpet" ...NailedOn said:
Or is this one of those old man amnesia moments?
So, just to recap:
We won the war, and are now friends with the Jerries,
There are people alive now who have fought in more than two wars,
Milk is still milk,
Cars haven't become more expensive when you consider inflation and;
Formula 1 still has cars overtaking other cars and strategy/pre-season choices/human error still has a big part to play in the racing.
HTH.
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