The Official 2015 British Grand Prix thread **SPOILERS**
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smithyithy said:
But this season he's been more likeable in interviews and out of the car, despite not leading the field in the Ferrari, he seems to be having fun, and his radio comms and body language after yesterdays race reflected this I feel, he seemed genuinely happy to get that 3rd place.
Having watched last years Ferrari and this years Red Bull, he's probably pretty damn happy, given a Merc seat wasn't on offer. A rebuilding year for Ferrari - whilst he won't be ecstatic at 3rd in the table, it's the best achievable with the car.Bottas was considerably quicker than Massa at the point that Williams should have given Felipe the "Valtteri is faster than you" message, and not just because of the DRS. On Anthony Davidson's Sky Pad bit it was clear that Bottas was easily gaining on Massa through the non-DRS sections of the track. I suspect that Bottas lost out at least partly because Smedley so obviously believes the sun shines out of Massa's backside. If Bottas had been released I think he could have built a big enough buffer in front of Massa to make a real difference. Wally Bottas was let down by his team yesterday.
Williams also clearly ballsed-up by not pre-empting Hamilton's undercutting pit-stop. I don't think they necessarily had the overall pace to win the race outright, particularly when the rain came down, but there's no reason other than their own incompetence that they didn't have at least one car on the podium yesterday.
Smedley's post race interview was toe-curling. I don't know how stupid he thinks the viewers are by his blatant dishonesty was incredible. The broadcasters shouldn't even bother talking to him in the future because he's so obviously full of s
t. I too enjoyed the fact that Sky showed Bottas directly contradicting him straight afterwards.
I thought that the race was one of the most interesting in quite a while and Hamilton well deserved his win.
Williams also clearly ballsed-up by not pre-empting Hamilton's undercutting pit-stop. I don't think they necessarily had the overall pace to win the race outright, particularly when the rain came down, but there's no reason other than their own incompetence that they didn't have at least one car on the podium yesterday.
Smedley's post race interview was toe-curling. I don't know how stupid he thinks the viewers are by his blatant dishonesty was incredible. The broadcasters shouldn't even bother talking to him in the future because he's so obviously full of s
t. I too enjoyed the fact that Sky showed Bottas directly contradicting him straight afterwards.I thought that the race was one of the most interesting in quite a while and Hamilton well deserved his win.
Eric Mc said:
RichB said:
Eric Mc said:
By the standards of the 1950s, Moss might have appeared dull - especially when you consider the "playboy" attitude of many of his contemporaries. But often the really successful sportsmen are that little bit less "carefree" than those who seem more capable of enjoying themselves. And that holds true for any era.
Yet Moss would have you believe the first thing he did the evening after a race was "chase crumpet" ...RichB said:
Eric Mc said:
By the standards of the 1950s, Moss might have appeared dull - especially when you consider the "playboy" attitude of many of his contemporaries. But often the really successful sportsmen are that little bit less "carefree" than those who seem more capable of enjoying themselves. And that holds true for any era.
Yet Moss would have you believe the first thing he did the evening after a race was "chase crumpet" ...
Sky did a really clever trick of showing a Classic Silverstone race immediately after. Guess what? Senna a full minute in front and had lapped everyone up to fifth. I saw plenty of botched overtakes and people on the grass but very few people actually going past others.
Sniff Petrol summed up the Silverstone reaction- http://sniffpetrol.com/2015/07/06/british-gp-lets-...
I'm quite strange in the fact I like it when a competitor dominates a Sport. Theres nothing finer than watching someone who has honed there chosen craft to an art and exposing everyone else. People shouldn't be looking to drag Mercedes down, but looking at how to drag the other teams up.
Sniff Petrol summed up the Silverstone reaction- http://sniffpetrol.com/2015/07/06/british-gp-lets-...
I'm quite strange in the fact I like it when a competitor dominates a Sport. Theres nothing finer than watching someone who has honed there chosen craft to an art and exposing everyone else. People shouldn't be looking to drag Mercedes down, but looking at how to drag the other teams up.
KarlMac said:
Sniff Petrol summed up the Silverstone reaction- http://sniffpetrol.com/2015/07/06/british-gp-lets-...
Brilliant. 
And, yet, this thread has shown that some people will *always* find something to moan about.
Eric Mc said:
motco said:
Don't know if it's been mentioned, but having that bint sing the National Anthem was little short of toe-curlingly embarrassing. Why, in the name of all things holy, do we have to lower ourselves to the level of the bloody Americans?
Or perhaps raised some semblance of patriotism for one's own country - something we are pretty poor at here and maybe something we could learn from the Americans.As for the singing, I had to leave the room. Toe-curling doesn't even begin to describe the god-awful warbling. It's not a great anthem - a turgid and dull tune - but do it straight and it's tolerable. This was just gruesome.
JonRB said:
KarlMac said:
Sniff Petrol summed up the Silverstone reaction- http://sniffpetrol.com/2015/07/06/british-gp-lets-...
Brilliant. And, yet, this thread has shown that some people will *always* find something to moan about.
hairyben said:
Cobnapint said:
Pooh said:
Did anybody else notice how rude Nico was to Frankie in the interviews, Frankie asked him a question and Nico completely turned his back on him and addressed his answer to the crowd. In contrast both Lewis and Seb addressed their answers to Frankie.
That's what Nico does - rude. Did you see his body language in the towelling down room after the race. You could FEEL the hate oozing from him as Lewis walked in. Seb shook Lewis's hand and congratulated him - Nico just sat in the corner with his bottle of water and didn't move until Lewis leant in his direction for the hand shake.
To say Nico can't stand Lewis (and vice-versa) is an understatement. Lewis just hides it better.
Guess what, both of them are just people and will show their feelings. It's an interview for the crowd - you speak to them. If it was a private press conference then ok, but when it's for the crowd in front of them? And in regards to the language thing - why should everyone speak English just because someone British is in the room? You're basically saying you're more important and that everything has to be done for you. (This is coming from a Brit living abroad). Ok, it's slightly different as Hamilton isn't living in Germany, but too many British people complain about the other people being rude by speaking in another language when if they bothered to learn the language (which they should) there wouldn't be an issue.
LDN said:
JonRB said:
KarlMac said:
Sniff Petrol summed up the Silverstone reaction- http://sniffpetrol.com/2015/07/06/british-gp-lets-...
Brilliant. And, yet, this thread has shown that some people will *always* find something to moan about.
rohrl said:
Bottas was considerably quicker than Massa at the point that Williams should have given Felipe the "Valtteri is faster than you" message, and not just because of the DRS. On Anthony Davidson's Sky Pad bit it was clear that Bottas was easily gaining on Massa through the non-DRS sections of the track. I suspect that Bottas lost out at least partly because Smedley so obviously believes the sun shines out of Massa's backside. If Bottas had been released I think he could have built a big enough buffer in front of Massa to make a real difference. Wally Bottas was let down by his team yesterday.
He should have qualified better and he should not have gifted a place away to Hamilton at the third corner (or thereabouts). NRS said:
hairyben said:
Cobnapint said:
Pooh said:
Did anybody else notice how rude Nico was to Frankie in the interviews, Frankie asked him a question and Nico completely turned his back on him and addressed his answer to the crowd. In contrast both Lewis and Seb addressed their answers to Frankie.
That's what Nico does - rude. Did you see his body language in the towelling down room after the race. You could FEEL the hate oozing from him as Lewis walked in. Seb shook Lewis's hand and congratulated him - Nico just sat in the corner with his bottle of water and didn't move until Lewis leant in his direction for the hand shake.
To say Nico can't stand Lewis (and vice-versa) is an understatement. Lewis just hides it better.
Guess what, both of them are just people and will show their feelings. It's an interview for the crowd - you speak to them. If it was a private press conference then ok, but when it's for the crowd in front of them? And in regards to the language thing - why should everyone speak English just because someone British is in the room? You're basically saying you're more important and that everything has to be done for you. (This is coming from a Brit living abroad). Ok, it's slightly different as Hamilton isn't living in Germany, but too many British people complain about the other people being rude by speaking in another language when if they bothered to learn the language (which they should) there wouldn't be an issue.
I'd say they handle their "huffs" very differently, highlighted by monaco- hamilton had every reason to feel utterly robbed and put on his pout face- but the first thing he did on arriving at the podium was handshake/congratulate rosberg, even if it was strained. yesterday rosberg lost a "chance" through bad luck but to be fair it was a much, much lesser "loss", but he sat in the corner and blanked until hamilton come to him. it's a little thing but it says a lot.
hairyben said:
it's a little thing but it says a lot.
I think you're concentrating far too much on these little things, I think you're over-analyzing them, I think you're possibly coming to the wrong conclusions, but more than this these little things amount to the square root of sweet fk all in the overall scheme of things, imo. hairyben said:
NRS said:
hairyben said:
Cobnapint said:
Pooh said:
Did anybody else notice how rude Nico was to Frankie in the interviews, Frankie asked him a question and Nico completely turned his back on him and addressed his answer to the crowd. In contrast both Lewis and Seb addressed their answers to Frankie.
That's what Nico does - rude. Did you see his body language in the towelling down room after the race. You could FEEL the hate oozing from him as Lewis walked in. Seb shook Lewis's hand and congratulated him - Nico just sat in the corner with his bottle of water and didn't move until Lewis leant in his direction for the hand shake.
To say Nico can't stand Lewis (and vice-versa) is an understatement. Lewis just hides it better.
Guess what, both of them are just people and will show their feelings. It's an interview for the crowd - you speak to them. If it was a private press conference then ok, but when it's for the crowd in front of them? And in regards to the language thing - why should everyone speak English just because someone British is in the room? You're basically saying you're more important and that everything has to be done for you. (This is coming from a Brit living abroad). Ok, it's slightly different as Hamilton isn't living in Germany, but too many British people complain about the other people being rude by speaking in another language when if they bothered to learn the language (which they should) there wouldn't be an issue.
I'd say they handle their "huffs" very differently, highlighted by monaco- hamilton had every reason to feel utterly robbed and put on his pout face- but the first thing he did on arriving at the podium was handshake/congratulate rosberg, even if it was strained. yesterday rosberg lost a "chance" through bad luck but to be fair it was a much, much lesser "loss", but he sat in the corner and blanked until hamilton come to him. it's a little thing but it says a lot.
hairyben said:
I'd say they handle their "huffs" very differently, highlighted by monaco- hamilton had every reason to feel utterly robbed and put on his pout face- but the first thing he did on arriving at the podium was handshake/congratulate rosberg, even if it was strained. yesterday rosberg lost a "chance" through bad luck but to be fair it was a much, much lesser "loss", but he sat in the corner and blanked until hamilton come to him. it's a little thing but it says a lot.
Selective memory? Hamilton only shook Rosberg's hand once they were on the podium (i.e. in full glare of the media). When they were still below the steps on the track, Hamilton also slouched about pouting and sulking. Not saying his handshake wasn't sincere, but don't paint him as a saint either... Silver Arrow:
Silver Arrow:
First GP for me in some years. Thoroughly enjoyable day. As it would appear obligatory to complain:
1. The F1 cars are markedly quieter that either the GP2 or GP3 cars; would be good to do something to make them noisier.
2. The National Anthem was awful. Just before it was "sung" there was a military marching band on the pits straight - talk about an opportunity missed.
Traffic out was grim, but not sure what can be done about that. Staff were handing out bottles of water to cars in the queue.
Alonso's McLaren was harvesting every single lap when it went by us; and it started doing so a lot earlier on the straight than any other cars; Manor and Sauber included. I don't think there are enough development "tokens" in the world to make McLaren competitive - either this season or the next.
Silver Arrow:
First GP for me in some years. Thoroughly enjoyable day. As it would appear obligatory to complain:
1. The F1 cars are markedly quieter that either the GP2 or GP3 cars; would be good to do something to make them noisier.
2. The National Anthem was awful. Just before it was "sung" there was a military marching band on the pits straight - talk about an opportunity missed.
Traffic out was grim, but not sure what can be done about that. Staff were handing out bottles of water to cars in the queue.
Alonso's McLaren was harvesting every single lap when it went by us; and it started doing so a lot earlier on the straight than any other cars; Manor and Sauber included. I don't think there are enough development "tokens" in the world to make McLaren competitive - either this season or the next.
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