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[Logie]

Few ppl on twitter saying McLar have revised engine which sounds different. Cant find out much more then that

Albert Fabrega ES
"Alonso has mounted engine ICE new (with tokens), turbo, MGUH and new control unit. The engine sounds completely different."

[Doink]

Logie said:

Few ppl on twitter saying McLar have revised engine which sounds different. Cant find out much more then that

Albert Fabrega ES
"Alonso has mounted engine ICE new (with tokens), turbo, MGUH and new control unit. The engine sounds completely different."

Correct, doesn't sound like it used to, sounded more like the rest although I did notice a pop pop pop pop on over run

[Gazzab]

The sound from the Mclaren when I was at Spa was horrible - in particular as it slowed from high speed for slowish corners. The popping and farting just made it sound like the whole engine 'set up' was weirdly configured. The front runners were much smoother sounding.

[2fast748]

Doink said:

Logie said:

Few ppl on twitter saying McLar have revised engine which sounds different. Cant find out much more then that

Albert Fabrega ES
"Alonso has mounted engine ICE new (with tokens), turbo, MGUH and new control unit. The engine sounds completely different."

Correct, doesn't sound like it used to, sounded more like the rest although I did notice a pop pop pop pop on over run

I'm surprised more people haven't commented on the noise of the Honda. It struck me maybe they were doing what they did in Indy Car in 90's(?) and produced a torquey but not powerful enough engine. Back then it stemmed from the MotoGP (alright 500's for those in the know!) development of what they called the big bang engine. Realising racing motorcycles aren't at full power for long enough to justify constantly chasing peak power, they improved the rideability/traction of the bike to improve lap times. As they learned then though racing cars can handle very peaky power deliveries so it's not necessary and peak power is king!

I could be talking cobblers though!

[HarryFlatters]

2fast748 said:

big bang engine.

I thought that was done to improve traction by having the power pulse within 90 degrees per crank rotation, giving the tyre time to recover traction in between "bangs", rather than chasing peak torque or power.

[ajprice]

Wet FP2, its going to be a hectic FP3 in the morning again.

[2fast748]

HarryFlatters said:

I thought that was done to improve traction by having the power pulse within 90 degrees per crank rotation, giving the tyre time to recover traction in between "bangs", rather than chasing peak torque or power.

I think you might be right and my poor memory has scrambled the bits of info it does retain!

[furtive]

Logie said:

Few ppl on twitter saying McLar have revised engine which sounds different. Cant find out much more then that

Albert Fabrega ES
"Alonso has mounted engine ICE new (with tokens), turbo, MGUH and new control unit. The engine sounds completely different."

It broke in FP1 and they have had to put the old spec engine back in, earning him a 35 place grid penalty

[F1GTRUeno]

furtive said:

It broke in FP1 and they have had to put the old spec engine back in, earning him a 35 place grid penalty

You just knew that'd happen.

[dtrump]

Question....... Who actually benefits from these grid penalties?

Is not so late on a Friday but I have been drinking a fair while......so forgive me if is obvious 😐

[hdrflow]

Heavy shunt that

[London424]

Looks like it could be a bad one

[rscott]

hdrflow said:

Heavy shunt that

What happened - watching without sound on Sky Go missed it.

[CorbynForTheBin]

Yup. No radio contact either!

[tonybhr]

Did they show a replay? Odd place to end up without some kind of mechanical failure.

[oobster]

No replay yet. Maybe waiting to see if he is ok.

[Flying Toilet]

Looks like he clipped the wall in the braking area and lost control.

Hope he's ok, that's high speed straight before that corner.

[hdrflow]

rscott said:

What happened - watching without sound on Sky Go missed it.

Sainz went off and hit the barriers hard. The armco has actually moved a lot.

[London424]

Session cancelled. Oh boy

[ajprice]

Session won't be restarted.