BBC to pull out of F1 entirely.

BBC to pull out of F1 entirely.

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SmoothCriminal

5,061 posts

199 months

Sunday 29th November 2015
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Advert for Australia but then suzi says 'hopefully we will see you next year'

Eric Mc

122,033 posts

265 months

Sunday 29th November 2015
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I think the tennis was more exciting. I'd look on this as a lucky break.

Etretat

1,342 posts

222 months

Sunday 29th November 2015
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Which is exactly what has just happened to me! Just got in, straight to the tv but I've got two and a half hours of bloody Andy Murray furious

This happened to me too. Also I've just accidently seen the result. Not going to watch it at all now. Have raised an on line complaint with BBC (for all the good it will do)

furiousfuriousfuriousfurious

Eric Mc

122,033 posts

265 months

Sunday 29th November 2015
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BBC tend to put national importance over individual sports. If it had been Hamilton trying to be the first WDC since (say) 1958, maybe it might have been the other way around.

As it was, the Abu Dhabi race was pretty meaningless in the bigger scheme of things - or even for this year's F1.

And I don't even care for tennis.

Jerry Can

4,455 posts

223 months

Sunday 29th November 2015
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I'm of the opinion that the Beeb should not pay for, or broadcast any sport, it shoul dbe a cultural tv station - and that means the end of strictly come dancing etc.

If you want to watch sport live, you wither should pay for a ticket to sit trackside, court side or pitch side, or pay to view it on tele. The tv licence doesn't count because it pays for all bbc output, and there are many people who have a licence but don't watch sport.

Equally, if sport was made to justify its existence through pay per view, then we will see whole sale changes in how sport is run. And yes I'm talking about you Bernie. If you love motorsport, then theless people that watch F1 the better, as it will lead to the sports finances being restructured and more money kept in the sport.

rubystone

11,254 posts

259 months

Sunday 29th November 2015
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Jerry Can said:
I'm of the opinion that the Beeb should not pay for, or broadcast any sport, it shoul dbe a cultural tv station - and that means the end of strictly come dancing etc.

If you want to watch sport live, you wither should pay for a ticket to sit trackside, court side or pitch side, or pay to view it on tele. The tv licence doesn't count because it pays for all bbc output, and there are many people who have a licence but don't watch sport.

Equally, if sport was made to justify its existence through pay per view, then we will see whole sale changes in how sport is run. And yes I'm talking about you Bernie. If you love motorsport, then theless people that watch F1 the better, as it will lead to the sports finances being restructured and more money kept in the sport.
So what type of programme should the Beeb broadcast and what's your rationale for your recommendations?

MiniMan64

16,930 posts

190 months

Sunday 29th November 2015
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I was flicking between the tennis and the F1 today, I'm a fan of both.

It didn't take me long to stick with the tennis. That "race" was bloody awful today

Derek Smith

45,666 posts

248 months

Sunday 29th November 2015
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aeropilot said:
markcoznottz said:
My dad said today, did people travel all the way to Wales and stand in the cold and rain all day to watch rally cars?.
Yes....and in the middle of the night as well.
It was great fun. I was at Sweet Lamb in a Force 8 straight off the Urals. The Welsh forest was devoid of trees so the wind blew unabated. Once, when leaning back into it, a couple walked behind me and I fell into them.

We stopped at a B&B. It was a farmhouse, on top of a hill. We asked to be woken at 4.30 in the mistaken impression we would get some sleep.

It was so cold I slept fully clothed, with a coat on. But was still frozen. We were told there was no hot water, and that included the morning. A couple of the blokes I was with were wearing scarves at the breakfast table when in came the farmer, He had corduroy trousers, a string vest and was drying himself. They build them differently there.

Great times, great memories.

We struggled across a health to get to a particular spot I was assured was great. There were a few trees and in a little clearing there was a frame tent, front all opened, and a woman serving tea. It was about -4 and she was knitting in gloves.

All to see a few cars for a few seconds.


mollytherocker

14,366 posts

209 months

Sunday 29th November 2015
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Derek Smith said:
It was great fun. I was at Sweet Lamb in a Force 8 straight off the Urals. The Welsh forest was devoid of trees so the wind blew unabated. Once, when leaning back into it, a couple walked behind me and I fell into them.

We stopped at a B&B. It was a farmhouse, on top of a hill. We asked to be woken at 4.30 in the mistaken impression we would get some sleep.

It was so cold I slept fully clothed, with a coat on. But was still frozen. We were told there was no hot water, and that included the morning. A couple of the blokes I was with were wearing scarves at the breakfast table when in came the farmer, He had corduroy trousers, a string vest and was drying himself. They build them differently there.

Great times, great memories.

We struggled across a health to get to a particular spot I was assured was great. There were a few trees and in a little clearing there was a frame tent, front all opened, and a woman serving tea. It was about -4 and she was knitting in gloves.

All to see a few cars for a few seconds.

Magic, magic times Derek. They are imprinted on my mind. The freezing cold, the fresh air, the beautiful scenery, the barp barp sounds echoing off the hills, the getting lost, the pushing cars out of ditches! Getting your car absolutely filthy and thinking it was cool!


SPS

1,306 posts

260 months

Monday 30th November 2015
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Lets face it F1 is now just a bad joke as far as actual racing goes.
I used to love it the 60's, 70's, 80's and early 90's.
Now even the bloody cars sound terrible.
Glad to see the BBC finally pulling the plug from what has become a very boring event. I only watch now and again if the weather at home is bad and I can't get out for a blast myself and then I only actually enjoy the pre and post race banter by the pundits.
F1 have fallen a long way over the past decade and a half tbh.

AlexS

1,552 posts

232 months

Monday 30th November 2015
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markcoznottz said:
Very interesting. The only reason botham and pieterson are famous is because of the BBC. Botham has dined of his success since, another 'household' name. Pay TV is a one trick pony, a sell out, ultimately it is self defeating, probably only football can weather this problem, as discussed above for socio- historic/tribal reasons. Is it fair to say free to air saved f1? Some of the early 80's races were poor, but it was nurtured and polished, and found a voice in Murray walker, the oldest trick in the book, make the listener think he's talking only to them.
How did the BBC have any contribution to making Pietersen famous (other than coverage on the news channel)? BBC stopped showing live test cricket in '99 and Pietersen made his debut in 2005.

hornetrider

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63,161 posts

205 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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Looks like it's definitely gone.

http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/itv-to-step-in-...

Article said:
The BBC is to back out of its Formula 1 coverage three years early, with ITV poised to pick up free-to-air rights from next season.

Broadcast understands ITV is ready to swoop for the motorsport in a deal that will allow the commercial broadcaster to follow Lewis Hamilton’s title defence from the first race in Australia on 20 March 2016.

Like the BBC, ITV will broadcast a selection of races live, while others will be covered via highlights. Sky Sports’ coverage is unlikely to be impacted by the change.

The commercial PSB is ready to step in after the BBC decided to walk away early from its seven-year deal, which was due to run until 2018, as it battles to cut costs.

Sources have indicated that the BBC could save up to £60m per season - or around £180m in total - as a result of its U-turn, but will have to pay F1 rights-holder Bernie Ecclestone a termination fee, which could run to tens of millions of pounds.


Tens of millions termination fee! fk me rolleyes

TerzoNeil

335 posts

203 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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if tens of millions of pounds to terminate it

just show the f1 races then and let contract end

as a telly fee payer do we have a say in reguarding this

Mezzanine

9,218 posts

219 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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TerzoNeil said:
if tens of millions of pounds to terminate it

just show the f1 races then and let contract end

as a telly fee payer do we have a say in reguarding this
Tens of millions being similar to hundreds of millions...

RoverP6B

4,338 posts

128 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2015
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It's actually gone to Channel 4. Sad days. Motorsport coverage is something at which the BBC used to excel - and, to be fair, I think their most recent team did a very good job (Eddie Jordan included - the man is a national treasure as far as I'm concerned).

otolith

56,146 posts

204 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2015
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EJ's wig is more of a national treasure than he is.

RoverP6B

4,338 posts

128 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2015
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I dunno why he wears that thing, everyone knows he has alopecia... maybe just a comfort thing. I get the impression that a lot of people underestimate him. His views are frequently ridiculed at the time then proved right in the long run.

Vaud

50,519 posts

155 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2015
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RoverP6B said:
It's actually gone to Channel 4. Sad days. Motorsport coverage is something at which the BBC used to excel - and, to be fair, I think their most recent team did a very good job (Eddie Jordan included - the man is a national treasure as far as I'm concerned).
I love all of this "sad days" - why? It might even be better... they might get more budget, etc... No ad breaks so the race remains whole. C4 have a pretty good history of programme making!

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

262 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2015
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Sad day indeed, esp as a licence payer; I have really nothing that I look forwards to on the BBC now.

Oh and despite their hype, the latest series of natural history programs have been quite light weight and superficial, sad to say.

RoverP6B

4,338 posts

128 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2015
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Sad days for the Beeb, sad days for online viewers - 4OD won't be ad-free, you can bet on that! Last time I tried it, I found it was blocking my adblocker and wouldn't let me watch until I'd disabled the adblocker.