***** The Official Abu Dhabi GP Thread 2015 *****

***** The Official Abu Dhabi GP Thread 2015 *****

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deadslow

7,987 posts

223 months

Sunday 29th November 2015
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HustleRussell said:
Yep Rosberg has had the measure of Hamilton for the last few races of this season, and had the pace advantage again in Abu Dhabi. He probably would've won even if Mercedes hadn't knobbled Hamilton. That's the worst thing- it should've been a race between Rosberg and Hamilton and it wasn't. It was contrived. I can't imagine either of the drivers want the result to be determined that way.
How was it contrived. Merc gave LH the choice of tyre and he said in post-race interview he didn't know which one was best. His engineers made the choice at that point.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

274 months

Sunday 29th November 2015
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deadslow said:
How was it contrived. Merc gave LH the choice of tyre and he said in post-race interview he didn't know which one was best. His engineers made the choice at that point.
yes, but whatever, the decision was 5+ laps late.

Smollet

10,528 posts

190 months

Sunday 29th November 2015
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I have to say that MB seem to think the drivers need to be controlled. The title is over so let them race each other and if Rosberg blows away Hamilton then so be it but it does come across as whoever r is
Is in the lead shouldn't be challenged. I'm sure if Hamilton had been ahead then Rosberg wouldn't have been allowed to do his thing either. A negative approach from Mercedes imgo.

deadslow

7,987 posts

223 months

Sunday 29th November 2015
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Scuffers said:
deadslow said:
How was it contrived. Merc gave LH the choice of tyre and he said in post-race interview he didn't know which one was best. His engineers made the choice at that point.
yes, but whatever, the decision was 5+ laps late.
come out from under that collander, LH is big enough to fight his own battles. You people would embarrass him.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

274 months

Sunday 29th November 2015
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deadslow said:
come out from under that collander, LH is big enough to fight his own battles. You people would embarrass him.
where did that come from?

It's not exactly an arguable point is who chose not to pit lewis the lap after Nico.

by letting lewis carry on,the only possible strat was to run on the SS, which they then chose not to.

That level of indecision or whatever you call it, it's unforgivable.

amare32

2,417 posts

223 months

Sunday 29th November 2015
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Nice win for Nico.

However Hamilton won the title which really matters.

Oh well better luck next time for the petulant German.

It'll be business as usual in 2016 when there's a championship to be won, LH will turn it on again.

deadslow

7,987 posts

223 months

Sunday 29th November 2015
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Scuffers said:
where did that come from?

It's not exactly an arguable point is who chose not to pit lewis the lap after Nico.

by letting lewis carry on,the only possible strat was to run on the SS, which they then chose not to.

That level of indecision or whatever you call it, it's unforgivable.
Well it was his (LH) indecision or lack of leadership.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

274 months

Sunday 29th November 2015
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deadslow said:
Scuffers said:
where did that come from?

It's not exactly an arguable point is who chose not to pit lewis the lap after Nico.

by letting lewis carry on,the only possible strat was to run on the SS, which they then chose not to.

That level of indecision or whatever you call it, it's unforgivable.
Well it was his (LH) indecision or lack of leadership.
how so?


deadslow

7,987 posts

223 months

Sunday 29th November 2015
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Scuffers said:
deadslow said:
Scuffers said:
where did that come from?

It's not exactly an arguable point is who chose not to pit lewis the lap after Nico.

by letting lewis carry on,the only possible strat was to run on the SS, which they then chose not to.

That level of indecision or whatever you call it, it's unforgivable.
Well it was his (LH) indecision or lack of leadership.
how so?
TW came on the telly and said they gave LH the choice. LH was later questioned and asked why he didn't go onto the other tyre - he clearly stated 'he didn't know which one was best'. Work it out.

moffspeed

2,698 posts

207 months

Sunday 29th November 2015
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11 pages of threads on an entire GP - have seen more after FP1 in the past and this must reflect a general lack of interest in the season finale.

F1 does need fixing but don't blame the guys who run or drive the silver cars. When I first got stuck into F1 in the 1970's it was the guys in the black cars who did all the winning, often the result was orchestrated but neither Mario nor Ronnie moaned about it. Nothing changes. If you own the red team, the grey team or the drinks can team you just need to catch up...Jenson's great little talk after the flag underlined this.

As for the pre-rostrum room - where's the joy ?? The winner has won 3 GP's on the trot, 2nd place man has won the WDC for the 3rd time and the 3rd place man has driven a fine race and has the honour to drive for the greatest GP team of all time. Yet they all looked as though they were in the dentist's waiting room about to be called in for root canal treatment. I honestly believe that if President Putin had barged in (again) he would have lightened the atmosphere..

However - hearing (in the last few laps) that Nico's car was being detuned remotely to compensate for Lewis's bad luck was beyond belief - surely the answer is to add noise, power and, above all, give decision making back to the drivers rather than it being determined by some boffin on the end of a sat. link.

Final 2 thoughts :

F1 is full of high profile fathers - so where is Keke ???

I'm really looking forward to seeing Fernando in the Audi up against Webber in the Porsche at Le Mans next year (I kid you not..)

Edited by moffspeed on Sunday 29th November 17:27


Edited by moffspeed on Sunday 29th November 18:34

Scuffers

20,887 posts

274 months

Sunday 29th November 2015
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deadslow said:
TW came on the telly and said they gave LH the choice. LH was later questioned and asked why he didn't go onto the other tyre - he clearly stated 'he didn't know which one was best'. Work it out.
out of context, that's almost meaningless.

if they asked him just before he came in, then t was already too late.

deadslow

7,987 posts

223 months

Sunday 29th November 2015
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Scuffers said:
deadslow said:
TW came on the telly and said they gave LH the choice. LH was later questioned and asked why he didn't go onto the other tyre - he clearly stated 'he didn't know which one was best'. Work it out.
out of context, that's almost meaningless.

if they asked him just before he came in, then t was already too late.
to be honest mate most of your posts are almost meaningless except in the context of manlove

moanthebairns

17,933 posts

198 months

Sunday 29th November 2015
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moffspeed said:
However - hearing (in the last few laps) that Nico's car was being detuned remotely to compensate for Lewis's bad luck was beyond belief - surely the answer is to add noise, power and, above all, give decision making back to the drivers rather than it being determined by some boffin on the end of a sat. link.
Really? Christ.

Smollet

10,528 posts

190 months

Sunday 29th November 2015
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moffspeed said:
Final 2 thoughts :

F1 is full of high profile fathers - so where is Keke ???

I'm really looking forward to seeing Fernando in the Audi up against Webber in the Porsche at Le Mans next year (I kid you not..)

Edited by moffspeed on Sunday 29th November 17:27
Keke has always had a fairly hands off approach to Nico's racing career so it wouldn't surprise me if he was enjoying himself somewhere nice wondering how he's managed to sire such a miserable offspring. FA in an Audi next year? No way but if he does I'll donate a fiver to your favourite charity.

coetzeeh

2,647 posts

236 months

Sunday 29th November 2015
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Lewis lost the edge over Nico when the tyre pressure regs were introduced. All the talk of manipulation by Merc is tosh.

Lewis will be at the sharp end again when he figures the change. He's too good not to be.




FourWheelDrift

88,486 posts

284 months

Sunday 29th November 2015
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Smollet said:
moffspeed said:
Final 2 thoughts :

F1 is full of high profile fathers - so where is Keke ???

I'm really looking forward to seeing Fernando in the Audi up against Webber in the Porsche at Le Mans next year (I kid you not..)

Edited by moffspeed on Sunday 29th November 17:27
Keke has always had a fairly hands off approach to Nico's racing career so it wouldn't surprise me if he was enjoying himself somewhere nice wondering how he's managed to sire such a miserable offspring. FA in an Audi next year? No way but if he does I'll donate a fiver to your favourite charity.
Saved yourself £5. Audi have retained their driver lineup and are only going to be running 2 cars next year (including Le Mans) so no space for anyone new.

"Audi also revealed it will retain the same drivers of Marcel Fassler, Andre Lotterer, Benoit Treluyer, Lucas di Grassi, Loic Duval and Oliver Jarvis, but will not run a third car at Le Mans. "

http://www.crash.net/sportscars/news/225507/1/wec-...

Scuffers

20,887 posts

274 months

Sunday 29th November 2015
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deadslow said:
to be honest mate most of your posts are almost meaningless except in the context of manlove
and here we go again, run out of rational discussion, resort to name-calling etc...

please, do grow up.

jbudgie

8,906 posts

212 months

Sunday 29th November 2015
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BBC forum on the red button now.

moffspeed

2,698 posts

207 months

Sunday 29th November 2015
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Smollet said:
moffspeed said:
Final 2 thoughts :

F1 is full of high profile fathers - so where is Keke ???

I'm really looking forward to seeing Fernando in the Audi up against Webber in the Porsche at Le Mans next year (I kid you not..)

Edited by moffspeed on Sunday 29th November 17:27
Keke has always had a fairly hands off approach to Nico's racing career so it wouldn't surprise me if he was enjoying himself somewhere nice wondering how he's managed to sire such a miserable offspring. FA in an Audi next year? No way but if he does I'll donate a fiver to your favourite charity.
Just a warning - I was the guy who (early this year) predicted that Nissan's LMP 1 effort at Le Mans this year would struggle to match LMP 2 lap times, so winning a similar bet - so take care of your money !!


Edited by moffspeed on Sunday 29th November 18:14

vonuber

17,868 posts

165 months

Sunday 29th November 2015
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moanthebairns said:
Really? Christ.
This sort of thing does make you wonder sometimes.