*** The official Formula One 2015-16 off season thread ***

[Vaud]

Is it time for some F1 yet? I'm getting really bored. No testing, no launches. I like my Fridays to have some FP1/FP2 to ease into the weekend.

[Scuffers]

BarbaricAvatar said:

Yes, Toro Rosso will be running 2015-spec Ferrari's and yes it'll be for competition reasons. Likely a 2016-spec deal was never even in a pocket, let alone on the table. Weird that they refer to Ferrari themselves as Ferrari engine customers but i guess that's what they meant as there are only 3 non-Ferrari teams receiving Ferrari engines.

so, do we think Hass will be running 2016 engines?

[Vaud]

Scuffers said:

so, do we think Hass will be running 2016 engines?

I think so.

[BarbaricAvatar]

Scuffers said:

so, do we think Hass will be running 2016 engines?

Might've been part of the deal which allowed Ferrari to use Haas's wind-tunnel last year. For the 1st year they will be a Ferrari B-team, so they need to have the best chance of being midfield without a noteworthy designer. Toro Rosso on the other hand had a brilliant chassis this year so much so that Red Bull had to move their designer to the A-squad. Not because RB needed him, but just to remove the threat of being outperformed by TR. For selfish reasons, Ferrari do not want that team to have the 2nd best engine. It's no-risk when it comes to Haas.

[Piginapoke]

Does the new Haas Team have 2016 Ferrari engines?

[BarbaricAvatar]

Piginapoke said:

Does the new Haas Team have 2016 Ferrari engines?

Yes. They will be running 2016 engines, ERS, transmissions and also getting suspension parts from Ferrari. They are the B-team.
I would give you the source, but it was so easy to find i'll leave it up to you.

[BigBen]

Spanish media apparently briefed by a Honda source that they have found the missing power. Hope it turns out to be the case...

[Scuffers]

BigBen said:

Spanish media apparently briefed by a Honda source that they have found the missing power. Hope it turns out to be the case...

is it just me of does that have all the credibility of

[BigBen]

Scuffers said:

BigBen said:

Spanish media apparently briefed by a Honda source that they have found the missing power. Hope it turns out to be the case...

is it just me of does that have all the credibility of

BBC and Sky have repeated it, but all from the same source. We shall see.

[mollytherocker]

BigBen said:

Spanish media apparently briefed by a Honda source that they have found the missing power. Hope it turns out to be the case...

It was down the back of the sofa apparently. DOH!

[Scuffers]

223Hp found.... Yea, right.

this report:

http://as.com/diarioas/2016/01/23/english/14535809...

does nothing at add credibility to the headline either, only snippet I can see is they have changed the turbo (and sacrificed something else in the process?)

[mollytherocker]

Scuffers said:

223Hp found.... Yea, right.

this report:

http://as.com/diarioas/2016/01/23/english/14535809...

does nothing at add credibility to the headline either, only snippet I can see is they have changed the turbo (and sacrificed something else in the process?)

Perhaps they have made a change that they were not previously allowed to?

[Eric Mc]

BigBen said:

Spanish media apparently briefed by a Honda source that they have found the missing power. Hope it turns out to be the case...

It was hiding in Ron's sock drawer - which is usually very well organised.

[London424]

Scuffers said:

223Hp found.... Yea, right.

this report:

http://as.com/diarioas/2016/01/23/english/14535809...

does nothing at add credibility to the headline either, only snippet I can see is they have changed the turbo (and sacrificed something else in the process?)

I can only assume they mean they've fixed the deployment issue, and therefore access to the full HP, rather than they've magiced up 223 hp from nowhere.

[ajprice]

Eric Mc said:

It was hiding in Ron's sock drawer - which is usually very well organised.

Ron does take special pride in the organisation of his foot garment storage area, as he would call it.

[Scuffers]

London424 said:

I can only assume they mean they've fixed the deployment issue, and therefore access to the full HP, rather than they've magiced up 223 hp from nowhere.

the way it;s written makes it sound like their ERS did absolutely nothing last year and their IC engine was 70Hp down.

that's overly simplistic PR claptrap.

quite apart from the peak numbers being next to meaningless, what it's not telling us is how much energy they can now harvest from the ERS systems.

[BigBen]

Scuffers said:

London424 said:

I can only assume they mean they've fixed the deployment issue, and therefore access to the full HP, rather than they've magiced up 223 hp from nowhere.

the way it;s written makes it sound like their ERS did absolutely nothing last year and their IC engine was 70Hp down.

that's overly simplistic PR claptrap.

quite apart from the peak numbers being next to meaningless, what it's not telling us is how much energy they can now harvest from the ERS systems.

It's OK sky are now saying that Honda / McLaren are 'playing down' the reports.

[ajprice]

Internet beer bet: Which team will be at the back of the grid?

I'm asking because I may have started an argument on f1technical about whether Manor will have McLaren worried this year .

[Vaud]

ajprice said:

Internet beer bet: Which team will be at the back of the grid?

Sadly, could it be Sauber?

[suffolk009]

I think it's unlikely to be the new boys (Haas).