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Just dropping in to state the obvious.
Ferrari looking very good, but we won't know how quick they are until Raikkonen's in the car. If the pace is still there then there is hope for a decent season of racing. The midfield looks interesting, not really surprised that Toro Rosso are not a part of it having lost their Techie Direckie to the A-team.
At least McLaren will have a team to race this year back there, maybe two!
Ferrari looking very good, but we won't know how quick they are until Raikkonen's in the car. If the pace is still there then there is hope for a decent season of racing. The midfield looks interesting, not really surprised that Toro Rosso are not a part of it having lost their Techie Direckie to the A-team.
At least McLaren will have a team to race this year back there, maybe two!
aberdeeneuan said:
andburg said:
For all the money apparently spent at Manor...they're still running the huge nose that every other team has ditched!
I'd imagine today is about getting everything bedded in for them, then the performance will come. F!Technical reports
'Having completed more than the targeted mileage on the first day of testing, and actually topping their mileage record from any test session since the introduction of the current engine regulations, Mercedes are again one step ahead of the competition as they have already started to add new aerodynamic components on their car, a single day after the W07 debut.'
It seems that testing, as ever, offers different agendas to different teams.
'Having completed more than the targeted mileage on the first day of testing, and actually topping their mileage record from any test session since the introduction of the current engine regulations, Mercedes are again one step ahead of the competition as they have already started to add new aerodynamic components on their car, a single day after the W07 debut.'
It seems that testing, as ever, offers different agendas to different teams.
whatleytom said:
Wouldn't read too much into Ferrari being on the face of it quickest. If I remember rightly they did this last year too, and then it took them a while to get competitive still. I think there's a big thing with Ferrari about pleasing the sponsors and media back home.
Seb did seem genuinely happy yesterday in his interview, a lot more than can be said for others....if Kimi seems happy in an interview THEN we would know for sure!
Fastest testing times this week.
Sebastian Vettel Ferrari SF16-H 1:22.810
Nico Hulkenberg Force India VJM09 1:23.110
Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari SF16-H 1:23.477
Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull RB12 1:23.525
Sergio Perez Force India VJM09 1:23.650
Daniil Kvyat Red Bull RB12 1:24.293
Alfonso Celis Force India VJM09 1:24.840
Nico Rosberg Mercedes W07 1:24.867
Sebastian Vettel Ferrari SF16-H 1:24.939
Marcus Ericcson Sauber C34 1:25.237
Fastest times by car:
Ferrari SF16-H 1:22.810
Force India VJM09 1:23.110
Red Bull RB12 1:23.525
Mercedes W07 1:24.867
Sauber C34 1:25.237
Renault R.S.16 1:25.263
Toro Rosso STR11 1:25.393
Haas VF-16 1:25.524
Williams FW38 1:25.648
Manor MRT05 1:25.925
McLaren MP4-31 1:26.082
Laps completed:
Mercedes W07 675
Toro Rosso STR11 447
Sauber C34 432
Williams FW38 377
Red Bull RB12 367
Ferrari SF16-H 351
Renault R.S.16 343
Force India VJM09 333
Haas VF-16 281
McLaren MP4-31 257
Manor MRT05 254
Yeah, i like stats.
Edited by BarbaricAvatar on Thursday 25th February 18:35
McLaren ready for another epically miserable season I see. Improvement in reliability (from almost zero!) but reduction in speed (from almost zero!). After the F1 test they completed less than half the laps Merc did and were 4 seconds a lap slower and broke down at least twice. Honestly why JB and FA want to drag themselves through another miserable season with McLaren at the moment is beyond me.I feel (a bit) for FA who will see SV challenging strongly again this year.surely? Any other form of motorsport would be more satisfying than racing Manors whilst getting lapped by almost everyone else.
FFS: |I see that they also couldn't lap faster than a f
king Manor! Heads need to roll, now!
FFS: |I see that they also couldn't lap faster than a f
king Manor! Heads need to roll, now!I hope Williams are sandbagging because they're in deep st if they're not! Come to think of it, i remember thinking similar things on Friday's last season. Then it would get to Saturday and they wouldn't improve. The only teams i'd suspect of low-fuel showboating at this stage are Renault and Toro Rosso, i think they're both further off the pace than they appear to be.
t if they're not! Come to think of it, i remember thinking similar things on Friday's last season. Then it would get to Saturday and they wouldn't improve. The only teams i'd suspect of low-fuel showboating at this stage are Renault and Toro Rosso, i think they're both further off the pace than they appear to be. PhillipM said:
Williams have always run a different test regieme to everyone else these past few years, wouldn't read much into it.
I expect Manor and Williams to eventually be at similar levels as they are running the same package.The next test will possibly give us a better idea of the pecking order.
Some teams will probably not give away their real pace until the very last second of testing or wait until Melbourne.
Frimley111R said:
McLaren ready for another epically miserable season I see. Improvement in reliability (from almost zero!) but reduction in speed (from almost zero!). After the F1 test they completed less than half the laps Merc did and were 4 seconds a lap slower and broke down at least twice. Honestly why JB and FA want to drag themselves through another miserable season with McLaren at the moment is beyond me.
The money I guess.....only reason I can think of.I fully expect McHonda to be still trundling around at the back of the field come the end of this season.
Fastest testing times Week 2:
Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari SF16-H 1:22.765
Sebastian Vettel Ferrari SF16-H 1:22.852
Nico Rosberg Mercedes W07 1:23.022
Carlos Sainz Toro Rosso STR11 1:23.134
Felipe Massa Williams FW38 1:23.192
Valtteri Bottas Williams FW38 1:23.229
Nico Hulkenberg Force India VJM09 1:23.251
Valtteri Bottas Williams FW38 1:23.261
Max Verstappen Toro Rosso STR11 1:23.382
Lewis Hamilton Mercedes W07 1:23.622
Fastest times by car:
Ferrari SF16-H 1:22.765
Mercedes W07 1:23.022
Toro Rosso STR11 1:23.134
Williams FW38 1:23.192
Force India VJM09 1:23.251
Renault R.S.16 1:23.933
Red Bull RB12 1:24.427
McLaren MP4-31 1:24.714
Sauber C35 1:24.760
Manor MRT05 1:24.913
Haas VF-16 1:25.255
Laps completed:
Mercedes W07 619
Toro Rosso STR11 602
Ferrari SF16-H 501
Williams FW38 479
McLaren MP4-31 453
Red Bull RB12 448
Force India VJM09 446
Renault R.S.16 433
Sauber C35 406
Manor MRT05 230
Haas VF-16 193
Testing results:
Overall fastest times:
Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari SF16-H 1:22.765
Sebastian Vettel Ferrari SF16-H 1:22.810
Sebastian Vettel Ferrari SF16-H 1:22.852
Nico Rosberg Mercedes W07 1:23.022
Nico Hulkenberg Force India VJM09 1:23.110
Carlos Sainz Toro Rosso STR11 1:23.134
Felipe Massa Williams FW38 1:23.192
Valtteri Bottas Williams FW38 1:23.229
Nico Hulkenberg Force India VJM09 1:23.251
Valtteri Bottas Williams FW38 1:23.261
Overall fastest times by car:
Ferrari SF16-H 1:22.765
Mercedes W07 1:23.022
Force India VJM09 1:23.110
Toro Rosso STR11 1:23.134
Williams FW38 1:23.192
Red Bull RB12 1:23.525
Renault R.S.16 1:23.933
McLaren MP4-31 1:24.714
Sauber C35 1:24.760
Manor MRT05 1:24.913
Haas VF-16 1:25.255
Overall laps completed:
Mercedes W07 1294
Toro Rosso STR11 1049
Williams FW38 856
Ferrari SF16-H 852
Red Bull RB12 815
Force India VJM09 779
Renault R.S.16 776
McLaren MP4-31 710
Sauber C35 406 (+432 with C34)
Manor MRT05 484
Haas VF-16 447
Yep, it all means practically nothing.
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