Monza to be ruined
Discussion
designndrive62 said:
if they are going to do it, why can't they do it as an addition, keeping the original curve grande there as well, and have the motorbike chicane as a deviation from the original circuit? That way cars could still use the curve, but bikes use the chicane?
I believe this is actually what is being considered. Curva Grande will remain, with the bypass being used for bike racing and possibly some lower categories of car racing.anon said:
Vocal Minority said:
m444ttb said:
What's the reason the bikes can't run Curva Grande as it is?
I presume it's the diminishing run off at the exit, where the speeds will be highesthttp://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-view...
And from one of the links in the OP:
f1fanatic said:
If you read the original article, the explanation is much clearer – the circuit owners are trying to secure the contract for the World Superbike Championship, but FIM, the motorcycle governing body, is currently refusing to provide a homologation certificate for the circuit (which is why Monza is still listed on the official WSB calendar as “Subject to homologation”).
Furthermore, it is also widely known that Monza considers the World Superbike event as just a stepping stone to their real goal, which would be to lure MotoGP back to Monza – but, again, FIM is refusing to homologate the circuit for the MotoGP series.
Part of the reason why FIM are refusing to provide the correct certification is that they think that the Curva Grande is unsafe, so the circuit owners have decided that the only way to secure the certification is to bypass that section of the track entirely.
Now, because Charlie Whiting is a designated Technical Delegate for the FIA, part of his duties outside of F1 involve assessing the safety classification of a circuit, which is why the plans have been passed onto Whiting for him to rule on – he has currently given that layout a Grade 2 classification, which is OK for GT racing and for LMP cars, but below the required rating for F1.
All the references to this project refer solely to motorcycle racing – even the official name of the modification appears to be “Project Superbike”, which makes it fairly clear what the reason for the change is – so the whole reaction to the changes currently reads like a hysterical overreaction.
Furthermore, it is also widely known that Monza considers the World Superbike event as just a stepping stone to their real goal, which would be to lure MotoGP back to Monza – but, again, FIM is refusing to homologate the circuit for the MotoGP series.
Part of the reason why FIM are refusing to provide the correct certification is that they think that the Curva Grande is unsafe, so the circuit owners have decided that the only way to secure the certification is to bypass that section of the track entirely.
Now, because Charlie Whiting is a designated Technical Delegate for the FIA, part of his duties outside of F1 involve assessing the safety classification of a circuit, which is why the plans have been passed onto Whiting for him to rule on – he has currently given that layout a Grade 2 classification, which is OK for GT racing and for LMP cars, but below the required rating for F1.
All the references to this project refer solely to motorcycle racing – even the official name of the modification appears to be “Project Superbike”, which makes it fairly clear what the reason for the change is – so the whole reaction to the changes currently reads like a hysterical overreaction.
VolvoT5 said:
Eric Mc said:
That doesn't look too bad. I really hate the chicane they put at the end of the straight so this would remove the need for that.
That would remove an overtaking opportunity though? Where the road narrows, this causes a funneling effect - and it was this which caused the accident that killed Ronnie Peterson in 1978.
A chicane was put in at the end of the straight to try to encourage braking on the approach to the first right turn. However, the old part of the bend still exists as an escape road and we are always seeing cars dive off down this road and rejoining in order to avoid collisions. One year they even put in speed humps to discourage drivers from adopting this tactic.
I'd certainly give the new layout a chance to see if it improves matters.
IanUAE said:
FourWheelDrift said:
They'd be travelling at a higher speed into a tight chicane, I'd prefer to see the chicane ignored on lap 1. But then you have to hope Maldonado remembers to use it on lap 2.
Or each driver gets a "joker" lap like in rallycross.....robinessex said:
IanUAE said:
FourWheelDrift said:
They'd be travelling at a higher speed into a tight chicane, I'd prefer to see the chicane ignored on lap 1. But then you have to hope Maldonado remembers to use it on lap 2.
Or each driver gets a "joker" lap like in rallycross.....
If they don't collectively find a compromise it won't matter a damn as far as Fi is concerned anyhow
http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/35560484
http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/35560484
the other me said:
If they don't collectively find a compromise it won't matter a damn as far as Fi is concerned anyhow
http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/35560484
Sodding Bernie. fhttp://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/35560484
k him. Get the WEC there. 1000bhp on those straights
Krikkit said:
Hmm, I'm going to stick my head above the parapet and say that might not be so bad. The speeds will still be mega, and as long as the chicane is tight enough it'll give a good overtaking spot.
The gravel going back at parabolica is a change for the good as well.
I agree. I've seen worse modifications. Would like to see a simulator view.The gravel going back at parabolica is a change for the good as well.
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