Was it Nico or Lewis at fault in Spain?
Poll: Was it Nico or Lewis at fault in Spain?
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HustleRussell said:
Dr Z said:
...Except it was Lewis who actually lost control on the grass and crashed in to Nico. Tiny detail. 
This is a pretty inflammatory thing to say. I'm pretty sure Hamilton didn't choose to drive onto the grass.
Dr Z said:
HustleRussell said:
Dr Z said:
...Except it was Lewis who actually lost control on the grass and crashed in to Nico. Tiny detail.
This is a pretty inflammatory thing to say. I'm pretty sure Hamilton didn't choose to drive onto the grass.I do not need your help to 'see' the incident. Where 'paranoia' comes into it I do not know.
HustleRussell said:
I am a racer. I was racing yesterday. I had a similar incident in 2014.
I do not need your help to 'see' the incident. Where 'paranoia' comes into it I do not know.
Sorry to hear, hope you were OK. I do not need your help to 'see' the incident. Where 'paranoia' comes into it I do not know.
You quoted a comment I made to another poster out of context, and accused me of trolling, hence my comments. There was a Steward who is also racer himself, who contributed to making the Steward's decision a 50/50.
Peace.
Racing incident no doubt,
But nico was the one that made a black and white error when he forgot to reselect the start mode before the start,
The legality of moving to block with one move is accepted, the racing incident is the marginality (made up word !) of Lewis's small overlap at the point when the gap reduced to less than a cars width, just one of those things, and I enjoy Lewis's driving because he goes for things, but he can't keep expecting nico to just take it every time.
Still annoyed though, that nico then claimed he did not loose awareness of Lewis's position because he only pressed overtake which he knew where it was, he didn't ! He adjusted strat as well.
In the end it was a racing incident, but 60% Nico's fault in my view.
But nico was the one that made a black and white error when he forgot to reselect the start mode before the start,
The legality of moving to block with one move is accepted, the racing incident is the marginality (made up word !) of Lewis's small overlap at the point when the gap reduced to less than a cars width, just one of those things, and I enjoy Lewis's driving because he goes for things, but he can't keep expecting nico to just take it every time.
Still annoyed though, that nico then claimed he did not loose awareness of Lewis's position because he only pressed overtake which he knew where it was, he didn't ! He adjusted strat as well.
In the end it was a racing incident, but 60% Nico's fault in my view.
Gary C said:
Still annoyed though, that nico then claimed he did not loose awareness of Lewis's position because he only pressed overtake which he knew where it was, he didn't ! He adjusted strat as well.
Yeah, I thought that was a quite a funny moment of weakness that he couldn't even seem to acknowledge it to himself.NJK44 said:
"I knew where Lewis was at all times" was straight up bulls**t
But if true then he deliberately sought to put his team mate into a wall at about 150mph..... Not fit to be on the track.It also means he knew Lewis was alongside and still went to drive into him........ Again, not fit to be on the track..
I personally however feel he just moved across with no idea how fast Lewis was going to get there (though he should have known enough given he had messed up the start and knew his car was in the wrong mode and engaging recover).
Jasandjules said:
NJK44 said:
"I knew where Lewis was at all times" was straight up bulls**t
But if true then he deliberately sought to put his team mate into a wall at about 150mph..... Not fit to be on the track.It also means he knew Lewis was alongside and still went to drive into him........ Again, not fit to be on the track..
I personally however feel he just moved across with no idea how fast Lewis was going to get there (though he should have known enough given he had messed up the start and knew his car was in the wrong mode and engaging recover).
deadslow said:
The stewards said each of them was perfectly entitled to do what they did.
Yes but the stewards are mongs. Lewis was alongside and Nico should've given room. Simple. I personally think Nico didn't see Lewis till last minute and made a sh*t desperate attempt to block him at all costs.
NJK44 said:
deadslow said:
The stewards said each of them was perfectly entitled to do what they did.
Yes but the stewards are mongs. Lewis was alongside and Nico should've given room. Simple. I personally think Nico didn't see Lewis till last minute and made a sh*t desperate attempt to block him at all costs.
Has Hamilton and Button's coming together at Canada 2011 been mentioned? Seems quite similar and also a racing incident. Hamilton gets a run on car ahead, goes for a gap that is closing, gets hit / pushed off track. Only difference is that Button in that case wasn't disadvantaged. In both of those cases it seems to me that Button and Rosberg didn't realise exactly where Hamilton was whilst completing their move across the track.
deadslow said:
Jasandjules said:
deadslow said:
The stewards said each of them was perfectly entitled to do what they did.
If they were on different teams, I rather suspect we would have had a very different result from the Stewards.NJK44 said:
deadslow said:
Jasandjules said:
deadslow said:
The stewards said each of them was perfectly entitled to do what they did.
If they were on different teams, I rather suspect we would have had a very different result from the Stewards.Jabbah said:
Has Hamilton and Button's coming together at Canada 2011 been mentioned? Seems quite similar and also a racing incident. Hamilton gets a run on car ahead, goes for a gap that is closing, gets hit / pushed off track. Only difference is that Button in that case wasn't disadvantaged. In both of those cases it seems to me that Button and Rosberg didn't realise exactly where Hamilton was whilst completing their move across the track.
It has been mentioned. The difference being that Button's mirrors would have just shown spray (probably), so he wouldn't have known that Lewis was there (probably). Secondly, Button was driving on the racing line.Gassing Station | Formula 1 | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff